Does God exist or not?

[Joe King]

Name one thing.The shape

[atomicdOGg34]

The shape

wow, its shaped just like every other planet, and thats due to gravity, not god

good try though (well actually no it wasnt but you get the point)

[Joe King]

wow, its shaped just like every other planet, and thats due to gravity, not god

good try though (well actually no it wasnt but you get the point)

LOL. It's all magic right... :laughing: It just magically formed after billions of years. It's so precise too.:laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

The shape

So it has a perfect radius? :atu: Impossible since God doesn't even know what the fuck precision is when it comes to circumference....

[Joe King]

So it has a perfect radius? :atu: Impossible since God doesn't even know what the fuck precision is when it comes to circumference....
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Sure he doesn't.

[Tyler Durden]

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Sure he doesn't.

Pi is not 3 :atu:

[Joe King]

Pi is not 3 :atu:

So what. You just don't want to believe because you like living in sin.

[Tyler Durden]

So what. You just don't want to believe because you like living in sin.

What do you mean so what? You doubted it, then I corrected you....then you say so what? :lol:

People who believe in religion and those that don't, there is no correlation to doing wrong. In fact, I would say good deeds and acts from non-believers are more noble and honest than those who are scared into it.:slap:

[Joe King]

What do you mean so what? You doubted it, then I corrected you....then you say so what? :lol:

People who believe in religion and those that don't, there is no correlation to doing wrong. In fact, I would say good deeds and acts from non-believers are more noble and honest than those who are scared into it.:slap:

So because Pi isn't an "even" 3, God doesn't exist? That's stupid. In fact it proves precision.

[Tyler Durden]

So because Pi isn't an "even" 3, God doesn't exist? That's stupid. In fact it proves precision.


In fact it proves nothing of God in that book. 3.0 is not precision, in fact it is a HUGE error.....when we travelled to heaven and scared God:laughing:(moon landing) we would have never made it with 3.0....not even a prayer would have came close :pray:

You said God would know precision, the God in your book just got taken out by simple logic :mj:

[Joe King]

In fact it proves nothing of God in that book. 3.0 is not precision, in fact it is a HUGE error.....when we travelled to heaven and scared God:laughing:(moon landing) we would have never made it with 3.0....not even a prayer would have came close :pray:

You said God would know precision, the God in your book just got taken out by simple logic :mj:

More proof that you believe what you want to believe. I said because Pi IS NOT 3.0.

[Tyler Durden]

More proof that you believe what you want to believe. I said because Pi IS NOT 3.0.


We ALL know how you think the Bible is the word of God :warning:

Because you agree with me that it is not 3.0 like your Bible says, that proves God? :lol:

[Joe King]

We ALL know how you think the Bible is the word of God :warning:

Because you agree with me that it is not 3.0 like your Bible says, that proves God? :lol:


It's more than obvious that the universe was created by a being infinitely more intelligent than us. It's arrogant to think otherwise.

[Tyler Durden]

It's more than obvious that the universe was created by a being infinitely more intelligent than us. It's arrogant to think otherwise.

It's arrogant to think he wrote a book that isn't even close to making sense or being accurate. To assign a creator to a Universe we know very little about, is also more arrogant.

[Joe King]

It's arrogant to think he wrote a book that isn't even close to making sense or being accurate. To assign a creator to a Universe we know very little about, is also more arrogant.

How doesn't it make sense or is accurate? I am thankful that the creator of the universe chooses to communicate with us in a very personal way even though we are very insignificant.

[Tyler Durden]

How doesn't it make sense or is accurate? I am thankful that the creator of the universe chooses to communicate with us in a very personal way even though we are very insignificant.

It makes no sense there are many religions, especially given the punishment for choosing the incorrect one. The book you are so fond of has nothing accurate in it and is open to too many interpretations, obviously not a work of God, but if it was.....how insecure must you be to inflict such misery for not worshipping ones self.....it makes no sense and is disgusting when you think about it.....no wonder Dogma commands you not to think :lol: It just doesn't work when you do :pray::notallthere:

[Joe King]

It makes no sense there are many religions, especially given the punishment for choosing the incorrect one. The book you are so fond of has nothing accurate in it and is open to too many interpretations, obviously not a work of God, but if it was.....how insecure must you be to inflict such misery for not worshipping ones self.....it makes no sense and is disgusting when you think about it.....no wonder Dogma commands you not to think :lol: It just doesn't work when you do :pray::notallthere:


Great job in taking the easy way out again:bears: There is an answer for all of your questions and criticisms and generalizations. Instead you lump them all together and CHOOSE not to seek the answers. That is your downfall.

[Tyler Durden]

Great job in taking the easy way out again:bears: There is an answer for all of your questions and criticisms and generalizations. Instead you lump them all together and CHOOSE not to seek the answers. That is your downfall.

Easy way out? It is your God damn delusion, you just don't like it to be spelled out for you how much lunacy it is based off of....

[Joe King]

Easy way out? It is your God damn delusion, you just don't like it to be spelled out for you how much lunacy it is based off of....

99% of people in the world believe in creation and we are the ones deluded?

[Tyler Durden]

99% of people in the world believe in creation and we are the ones deluded?
Define creation and gtfoh with bullshit unmeasured statistics. I guess since we are that close to Chimps in DNA using real statistical data.....well, you know the rest :mj:

[Joe King]

Define creation and gtfoh with bullshit unmeasured statistics. I guess since we are that close to Chimps in DNA using real statistical data.....well, you know the rest :mj:
Look at all the religions in the world and do the math yourself if you want an exact number. Atheists are clearly a minute percentage.

[Tyler Durden]

Look at all the religions in the world and do the math yourself if you want an exact number. Atheists are clearly a minute percentage.


Propaganda, if I look at all the religions....I am looking at alot of Muslims, so your point is moot as always.

Check the stats here, then get back to me about "minute" :bears:

Clearly you are slective about percentages, case and point DNA and Fightbeat.....so why use it? Owned again.

[atomicdOGg34]

LOL. It's all magic right... :laughing: It just magically formed after billions of years. It's so precise too.:laughing:

your right, gravity is magic

you got me

[Joe King]

Propaganda, if I look at all the religions....I am looking at alot of Muslims, so your point is moot as always.

Check the stats here, then get back to me about "minute" :bears:

Clearly you are slective about percentages, case and point DNA and Fightbeat.....so why use it? Owned again.


Bad example. Muslims believe in one God that created the universe. Find me numbers that say even 20% of the world that don't believe in a creator. You can't count the religions that believe that the universe is just eternal because that has been proven to be false:hammert:

[Tyler Durden]

Bad example. Muslims believe in one God that created the universe. Find me numbers that say even 20% of the world that don't believe in a creator. You can't count the religions that believe that the universe is just eternal because that has been proven to be false:hammert:
Good example because your point is to prove your religion is right, you can't use a religion you don't believe in. You said there are only 1% of the world that doesn't believe? Really? Communist states make up 1%?
:hammert:

1% happened to be 90% of fightbeat? What is the statistical percentage of that happening? Once again, stay away from percentages because it does you no good.....remember the DNA and fighbeat!

[Joe King]

Good example because your point is to prove your religion is right, you can't use a religion you don't believe in. You said there are only 1% of the world that doesn't believe? Really? Communist states make up 1%?
:hammert:

1% happened to be 90% of fightbeat? What is the statistical percentage of that happening? Once again, stay away from percentages because it does you no good.....remember the DNA and fighbeat!

No. I'm pointing out how atheists are in the minority overall and how they are the dumbest creatures on earth.

[Tyler Durden]

No. I'm pointing out how atheists are in the minority overall and how they are the dumbest creatures on earth.

Not the minority here.

If you are not allowed to use logic or be sceptical, then who is really dumb? Most people are dumb and you admittedly fall into this category.....

[Joe King]

Not the minority here.

If you are not allowed to use logic or be sceptical, then who is really dumb? Most people are dumb and you admittedly fall into this category.....

You use "logic" to deny. I use logic to accept. You are wrong here and will be going to hell because of it.

[Tyler Durden]

You use "logic" to deny. I use logic to accept. You are wrong here and will be going to hell because of it.


Blind faith contains no logic, you are unable and incapable to exercise logic, get real.

[Joe King]

Blind faith contains no logic, you are unable and incapable to exercise logic, get real.

My "blind faith" is substantiated by logic and fact. You deny these facts and will be going to hell.

[Tyler Durden]

My "blind faith" is substantiated by logic and fact. You deny these facts and will be going to hell.

Logic has nothing to do with the Bible, you don't even understand Dogma.

[Joe King]

Logic has nothing to do with the Bible, you don't even understand Dogma.

You don't understand that you are going to hell. What's worse?

[Tyler Durden]

You don't understand that you are going to hell. What's worse?

Someone who wants people to go there and thinks they deserve it.

[Joe King]

Someone who wants people to go there and thinks they deserve it.


I don't want anyone to go there, but they are because they made THE wrong choice. That's why you're going to hell.

[Tyler Durden]

I don't want anyone to go there, but they are because they made THE wrong choice. That's why you're going to hell.

Prove it, I have many other religions before (from where Christianity came from) and after that "prove" I will not, or at least not stay there.

[Tyler Durden]

I don't want anyone to go there, but they are because they made THE wrong choice. That's why you're going to hell.

....and for you to assume people have choices in life is laughable and ignorant.

[Joe King]

....and for you to assume people have choices in life is laughable and ignorant.


There is at least once choice and you've got it wrong so far, so as of this moment you are destined for hell. I hope these words resonate and cause you to seek the truth.

[Tyler Durden]

There is at least once choice and you've got it wrong so far, so as of this moment you are destined for hell. I hope these words resonate and cause you to seek the truth.

Nope, you got it wrong because the Quran is the truth.

Nope, you got it wrong because the Torah is the truth.

Nope, you got it wrong because the Tibeten book of the dead is the truth.

[Joe King]

Nope, you got it wrong because the Quran is the truth.

Nope, you got it wrong because the Torah is the truth.

Nope, you got it wrong because the Tibeten book of the dead is the truth.

They're all wrong too. You're definitely wrong and from your own words, I can tell you that you are going to hell if you don't change your perspective.

[Tyler Durden]

They're all wrong too. You're definitely wrong and from your own words, I can tell you that you are going to hell if you don't change your perspective.

They are as wrong as yours, yours is in the minority about Jesus as the son of God.....and we know how important that is in truth.

[Joe King]

They are as wrong as yours, yours is in the minority about Jesus as the son of God.....and we know how important that is in truth.

If you do not accept Christ, you will be going to hell. It's that simple. :bears::bears:

You're catching on! Maybe you can avoid hell!

[Tyler Durden]

If you do not accept Christ, you will be going to hell. It's that simple. :bears::bears:

You're catching on! Maybe you can avoid hell!

Maybe you will listen when you realize you are worshipping the wrong horse, you are going to hell.

[Joe King]

Maybe you will listen when you realize you are worshipping the wrong horse, you are going to hell.

I worship the living God, there is no one else.

[LOK]

They are as wrong as yours, yours is in the minority about Jesus as the son of God.....and we know how important that is in truth.


TD.. you are talking to a wall man.. there is no changing it.. lol..

when you base ALL your argument on a book.. it just is ridiculous.. any point that is brought up, some will defend with what the book says.. outside of that book there is no knowledge

[Joe King]

TD.. you are talking to a wall man.. there is no changing it.. lol..

when you base ALL your argument on a book.. it just is ridiculous.. any point that is brought up, some will defend with what the book says.. outside of that book there is no knowledge

Not if that book is the word of God LOK. Very specific prophecies have been fulfilled and no man could be that accurate. You have to understand that Tyler isn't trying to use logic to corroborate anything, he's trying to use it to deny the book's validity.

That's why the discussion goes around and around again, because he's stuck in that methodology. If he was truly open minded, the tone of the discussion would be much different. Instead, he goes from verse to verse with obvious context differences and tries to use that to show contradiction. There is a valid answer to every single one of his objections, complaints and perceived contradictions, but he still doesn't want to be reasonable in discussion.

[atomicdOGg34]

wrap your little mind around this one JK:

what about the millions and millions of people that died before christ, that werent given the option, are they burning in hell too?

[Joe King]

wrap your little mind around this one JK:

what about the millions and millions of people that died before christ, that werent given the option, are they burning in hell too?

That is for God to decide, not us. Christ's death did save those who were looking for a savior before Christ, due to the prophecies that were written thousands of years before Christ.

You should be worried about your salvation instead, but you aren't. That's why you'll be going to hell if you don't accept the truth that is Jesus Christ.

[Tyler Durden]

TD.. you are talking to a wall man.. there is no changing it.. lol..

when you base ALL your argument on a book.. it just is ridiculous.. any point that is brought up, some will defend with what the book says.. outside of that book there is no knowledge

I love to correct him and make him mad, you should have seen how many times he said I was going to hell yesterday, I turned him into muttering troll :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

wrap your little mind around this one JK:

what about the millions and millions of people that died before christ, that werent given the option, are they burning in hell too?

God is racist, he was having nothing to do with those people....

[Joe King]

God is racist, he was having nothing to do with those people....


I'm not mad. I feel pity for you. Hell is not a pleasant place.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm not mad. I feel pity for you. Hell is not a pleasant place.

I guess the thought of not being able to eat will make a person like you a faith based thinker.

[Joe King]

I guess the thought of not being able to eat will make a person like you a faith based thinker.

It took you 3 weeks to come up with that?:lol: You must need attention if you decided to post after all this time. What a loser.

[LOK]

I love to correct him and make him mad, you should have seen how many times he said I was going to hell yesterday, I turned him into muttering troll :lol:


:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

It took you 3 weeks to come up with that?:lol: You must need attention if you decided to post after all this time. What a loser.

Only a complete imbecile would think it took any substantial time to write a sentence, the e-mail notifications have not been working and I peeked in this forum and noticed your stupid ass repetitive nonsensical comment, and then I replied. I guess it took me 24 hours to come up with a response this time, idiot :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

:lol:

It took you a month to come up with a smilie? :lol: I would say Joe is the dumbest person on the net, but that spot is taken. The best he can do is come in 2nd, complete failure.

[Joe King]

Only a complete imbecile would think it took any substantial time to write a sentence, the e-mail notifications have not been working and I peeked in this forum and noticed your stupid ass repetitive nonsensical comment, and then I replied. I guess it took me 24 hours to come up with a response this time, idiot :lol:


Horse shit. My name was the last posted in the main forum for three weeks before you decided to troll on in. You actually signed up to get email notifications to responses to your posts? What a loser.

[Tyler Durden]

Horse shit. My name was the last posted in the main forum for three weeks before you decided to troll on in. You actually signed up to get email notifications to responses to your posts? What a loser.

Yeah, so I don't have to look for where I last posted in, what thread I was interested in, now or in the distant future.....otherwise you have idiots like you saying it took three weeks to write a sentence and idiots like reed saying I ducked out of some gay debate. The notifications are when someone replies to a thread I post in, it really does make it more simple posting here, but I guess you like wasting time more than the next guy.

[Joe King]

Yeah, so I don't have to look for where I last posted in, what thread I was interested in, now or in the distant future.....otherwise you have idiots like you saying it took three weeks to write a sentence and idiots like reed saying I ducked out of some gay debate. The notifications are when someone replies to a thread I post in, it really does make it more simple posting here, but I guess you like wasting time more than the next guy.

The only thing you proved with your statement is that you have no excuse for dropping out of the debate or taking 3 weeks to respond. Oh yeah it was because of the emails:laughing:

[Tyler Durden]

The only thing you proved with your statement is that you have no excuse for dropping out of the debate or taking 3 weeks to respond. Oh yeah it was because of the emails:laughing:


That took 13 minutes? :atu:

WHAT debate?

[Joe King]

That took 13 minutes? :atu:

WHAT debate?

13 minutes is much less than 3 weeks:atu: besides, I was responding to capital L Loser neil.

The debate you said REED called you out on.:hammert:

[Tyler Durden]

13 minutes is much less than 3 weeks:atu: besides, I was responding to capital L Loser neil.

The debate you said REED called you out on.:hammert:

He didn't call me out on, he said i ducked the debate everyone else was having.....I had no clue what he was talking about because I didn't search and find every thread and the notifications have not been working properly. "hell is not a pleasant place" is indeed a very hard statement to follow, just like LOK took LONGER than three weeks to respond to my post.... RIGHT? My God....or your God that is, you are one ignorant SOB :lol:

[Joe King]

He didn't call me out on, he said i ducked the debate everyone else was having.....I had no clue what he was talking about because I didn't search and find every thread and the notifications have not been working properly. "hell is not a pleasant place" is indeed a very hard statement to follow, just like LOK took LONGER than three weeks to respond to my post.... RIGHT? My God....or your God that is, you are one ignorant SOB :lol:

LOK searched and read this thread as soon as a new post went on and that was your post. Nice try though.

You're trying to deflect the fact that you need notification to meander through this site:lol: I'm going out, so I won't be responding for a while, just so you know :lol:

[Tyler Durden]

LOK searched and read this thread as soon as a new post went on and that was your post. Nice try though.

You're trying to deflect the fact that you need notification to meander through this site:lol: I'm going out, so I won't be responding for a while, just so you know :lol:

I posted that WAYYYY before you came here to start trolling and exposing your hypocrisy. That WAS a new post on 9/15. He replied 10/3. he must have really been thinking what smiley to put up :lol: Idiot.

Which is easier, coming in the next day and looking for new conversations in threads that interest you, then seeing what another shift had to say by scrolling through page after page number.....or getting an instant notification? The answer is not debatable, but since you are in a troll mood.....I expect you to twist it like you try to find science in the Bible :lol:

[Joe King]

I posted that WAYYYY before you came here to start trolling and exposing your hypocrisy. That WAS a new post on 9/15. He replied 10/3. he must have really been thinking what smiley to put up :lol: Idiot.

Which is easier, coming in the next day and looking for new conversations in threads that interest you, then seeing what another shift had to say by scrolling through page after page number.....or getting an instant notification? The answer is not debatable, but since you are in a troll mood.....I expect you to twist it like you try to find science in the Bible :lol:

:atu:Put up a poll and see how many people use the notifications:lol: No spin needed. The fact that you receive the email notifications shows that you like to troll and eagerly await responses.:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

:atu:Put up a poll and see how many people use the notifications:lol: No spin needed. The fact that you receive the email notifications shows that you like to troll and eagerly await responses.:lol:

It is easier, it isn't debatable....I predicted your response :hammert:

[Joe King]

It is easier, it isn't debatable....I predicted your response :hammert:
No you didn't, you predicted your own:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

No you didn't, you predicted your own:lol:


Not only did I predict your response, we ALL could predict your trolling when someone uses innuendo about weight issues.....which is the REAL issue you are having. Can't you pray to God and get a spiritual tummy tuck to control your cravings? Your God failed again :shit:

[Joe King]

Not only did I predict your response, we ALL could predict your trolling when someone uses innuendo about weight issues.....which is the REAL issue you are having. Can't you pray to God and get a spiritual tummy tuck to control your cravings? Your God failed again :shit:

Are you drunk, or just a retard?

[Tyler Durden]

Are you drunk, or just a retard?

Ask yourself that question. You believe in fairy tales and base your whole life on it, the question should be, are you high?

[Joe King]

Ask yourself that question. You believe in fairy tales and base your whole life on it, the question should be, are you high?

I'm not high yet, but in a few minutes I will be.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm not high yet, but in a few minutes I will be.

Jump, you can do it.

[Joe King]

Jump, you can do it.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/SKULL_ANDRE/ANIMATIE-IMAGE/EMOTICONES/smiley_emoticons_joint.gifOnly if there is a knock on the car window:kidcool:

[Tyler Durden]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/SKULL_ANDRE/ANIMATIE-IMAGE/EMOTICONES/smiley_emoticons_joint.gifOnly if there is a knock on the car window:kidcool:

Just keep the car running with the garage door closed, you will get a better buzz.

I didn't know you got high, you do know that puts a stain on your soul everytime you disobey the lord by altering your mind, right? You probably will look like Pigpen in the afterlife.

[Joe King]

Just keep the car running with the garage door closed, you will get a better buzz.

I didn't know you got high, you do know that puts a stain on your soul everytime you disobey the lord by altering your mind, right? You probably will look like Pigpin in the afterlife.


I don't smoke as much as I used to, so I'm getting better. It's a once in a while thing now. My buddy and I used to get high and then talk about God for hours:lol:

[Tyler Durden]

I don't smoke as much as I used to, so I'm getting better. It's a once in a while thing now. My buddy and I used to get high and then talk about God for hours:lol:

This is a shock, you may not burn in hell as long as I previously thought.

Nice sig.