CYC's progress

[CleanYourClock]

Inspiration from Tyler ..:holla:

Anyway , I'll give you the low down on whats happening ...
I put weight on from a bad knee , then knee surgery (knee is great now) and my Wife was pregnant and 3 months ago the baby was born .
So really the last 2 years have been a complete fuck up regarding physical fitness ...
I'm 33 , 5'9 and was up to 211 lbs. I have a good amount of muscle on me so I'm not nearly as fat as you might think. Nothing you could notice with a shirt on. Though I should be around 183-185 lbs . That would leave me with some abs showing. Anyway , I lost 7 pounds during the last 3 weeks ...

This morning : 6/13/06
Worked out my shoulders , abs
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
1 hour 15 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
1 banana
2 scoops of tuna fish
1 cup of pasta salad
Various vitamins - creatine
3 breaded & fried chicken cutlets
1 birdseye vegatable pack
2 bite sized reeses peanut butter cups
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204

[Rubix]

Creatine?

Isn't that the stuff McGuire claimed helped him bulk up?

Also, that's the supplement Mosley said he loaded on before the Holiday fight where he "allegedly" crapped on himself during the fight.

Good luck!

[FourHooks]

Creatine?

Isn't that the stuff McGuire claimed helped him bulk up?

Also, that's the supplement Mosley said he loaded on before the Holiday fight where he "allegedly" crapped on himself during the fight.

Good luck!mgwire was claiming andro....steroids little sister

[Rubix]

mgwire was claiming andro....steroids little sister

Oh...I thought he was accused of using Andro, but said it was Creatine.

[FourHooks]

Oh...I thought he was accused of using Andro, but said it was Creatine.nah, andro was completely legal on and off the field at the time

[Tyler Durden]

Mike should be coming in here to tell you to not use Creatine if you are trying to lose weight any second now :jester:

[CleanYourClock]

This morning : 6/14/06
Worked out my chest & biceps
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
1 hour 20 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
1 banana
Salad with dressing
Chicken Panni with cheese and roasted peppers
Various vitamins - creatine
2 bowls of cereal - rice checks with 2% milk
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->

[CleanYourClock]

This morning : 6/15/06
Worked out my back & triceps
1 hour 15 minutes total workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 small grilled chicken Cesar salad
Chicken fingers (breaded - fried) with honey mustard
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hot dogs with cheese
1 cup vegatable rice
1 cup Ice cream
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->
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[FourHooks]

Mike should be coming in here to tell you to not use Creatine if you are trying to lose weight any second now :jester:And he's absolutely right


CYC says he has a decent amount of muscle, so there is absolutely no need for it at all

[CleanYourClock]

And he's absolutely right


CYC says he has a decent amount of muscle, so there is absolutely no need for it at all

Just on it for now Hooks to help with muscle recovery until I get back into my normal shape .... I will go off it in about 1 month ...

I still lose weight on Creatine. I lost 7lbs so far and as you can see , I'm not on a strict diet. Lets face it , I'm not trying to make weight for a proffesional weigh in or anything ....

[FourHooks]

Just on it for now Hooks to help with muscle recovery until I get back into my normal shape .... I will go off it in about 1 month ...

I still lose weight on Creatine. I lost 7lbs so far and as you can see , I'm not on a strict diet. Lets face it , I'm not trying to make weight for a proffesional weigh in or anything ....stick to whey, glutamine, and BCAA's for muscle recovery....you dont need creatine for what you want

[CleanYourClock]

stick to whey, glutamine, and BCAA's for muscle recovery....you dont need creatine for what you want

Hooks , I've been doing this for years .... Creatine works exactly the way I want it to ... I have had my experience with whey protein and glutamine ...
Both are good but , for my body creatine works wonders ...

[FourHooks]

Hooks , I've been doing this for years .... Creatine works exactly the way I want it to ... I have had my experience with whey protein and glutamine ...
Both are good but , for my body creatine works wonders ...whatever bro....whether you take the creatine or not, the things i recommended are still a big addition, and the protein is a necessity

[CleanYourClock]

whatever bro....whether you take the creatine or not, the things i recommended are still a big addition, and the protein is a necessity

I will agree with you in a way .... Protein used to be a big necessity to me but , these days I have already packed on enough muscle .... I used to consume atleast 2 grams of protein per body pound daily.
It worked out well . Over the years I stacked on around 25lbs of pure muscle.
Right now I'm in a different phase since I have been working out but , not seriously. Now I'm heading towards getting serious again. In the future If I feel I need to , I'll start up more protein and Glutamine etc or whatever I feel I need. For now what I'm doing is sufficient.
Creatine helps me get my old strength back without getting as sore as I normally would without it ....
It's a delivery system to your muscles ... IMO it works well. Creatine is the one thing that really agrees with my body .
I have been in the gym for years and have really tryed allot of products and different forms of product stacking ....

How long have you been in the gym game ?

[FourHooks]

I will agree with you in a way .... Protein used to be a big necessity to me but , these days I have already packed on enough muscle .... I used to consume atleast 2 grams of protein per body pound daily.
It worked out well . Over the years I stacked on around 25lbs of pure muscle.
Right now I'm in a different phase since I have been working out but , not seriously. Now I'm heading towards getting serious again. In the future If I feel I need to , I'll start up more protein and Glutamine etc or whatever I feel I need. For now what I'm doing is sufficient.
Creatine helps me get my old strength back without getting as sore as I normally would without it ....
It's a delivery system to your muscles ... IMO it works well. Creatine is the one thing that really agrees with my body .
I have been in the gym for years and have really tryed allot of products and different forms of product stacking ....

How long have you been in the gym game ?protien is needed to mantain muscle as well, not just build it. If you dont have the building blocks there for the muscles, the creatine will be delivery to something that isnt home. If you're on a calorie restricted diet, the simple fact of the matter is that you NEED protien to mantain, whereas creatine can be beneficial for strength and size gains.

You may like the hardness or density that creatine lends your muscle, but you will see that over time, without the right amount of protiens and BCAA's, on a calorie restricted diet, you muscles will break down.



As for me, I've been working out and researching stuff since I was 17, so that puts me at 7 years worth now

[Tyler Durden]

Since Mike hasn't chimed in yet.:nixweiss: .......he told me Creatine tends to retain water. When I took it, it gave me plurecy(sp) where my lining of my lungs and heart would rub together. It was aweful, I could barely breathe and couldn't sleep a wink. I went off it, then back on it after I felt better, same result. Some people it just ain't good for.

[Mr Roboto]

I hate creatine. It makes a man feel like he's on his fucking period.

[FourHooks]

Just want to go on record as saying, I dont think the creatine will make you fatter, but it will add some weight to you. I just think your priorities are a little out of place for what you say you're trying to do

[FourHooks]

Since Mike hasn't chimed in yet.:nixweiss: .......he told me Creatine tends to retain water. When I took it, it gave me plurecy(sp) where my lining of my lungs and heart would rub together. It was aweful, I could barely breathe and couldn't sleep a wink. I went off it, then back on it after I felt better, same result. Some people it just ain't good for.That FUCKING SUCKS.....I'm just getting over pneumonia, and I got pleurisy along with it......Feels like someone is DIGGING INSIDE of you

[Tyler Durden]

That FUCKING SUCKS.....I'm just getting over pneumonia, and I got pleurisy along with it......Feels like someone is DIGGING INSIDE of you

man, it was the worst, glad someone knows what I'm talking about. Try sleeping taking short breaths to ease the pain :19:

[CleanYourClock]

protien is needed to mantain muscle as well, not just build it. If you dont have the building blocks there for the muscles, the creatine will be delivery to something that isnt home. If you're on a calorie restricted diet, the simple fact of the matter is that you NEED protien to mantain, whereas creatine can be beneficial for strength and size gains.

You may like the hardness or density that creatine lends your muscle, but you will see that over time, without the right amount of protiens and BCAA's, on a calorie restricted diet, you muscles will break down.



As for me, I've been working out and researching stuff since I was 17, so that puts me at 7 years worth now

I'm around 17 years in the game ....
I understand what you are saying about protein maintaining muscle but , you are neglecting the fact that everyone is different ...

Me personally - I NEVER lose any muscle regardless if I do not take protein supplements ..... My metabolism is just like that .... For whatever reason , my body can maintain the same amount of muscle without protein supplements and even build a little . If I do take protein supplements , I build quite a bit of muscle ..... As I said , right now at the moment , I do not require a protein supplement.
I am the same muscluar size as I have been for years and I have the same amount of strength .... So I don't NEED additional protein to maintain my muscle at this present point of my life. Also as you can see , I'm not on a low calorie diet. In fact you would say I'm not even dieting at all - just a slight cut back ....

Fourhooks , here is one of my old diet plans .... Trust me , I know what I'm doing. Just because I tell you I ate hot dogs and fried chicken fingers and no protein supplement , that doesn't mean I have no knowledge. It only means I'm not in a hard core stage at the moment.
The one thing I'm good at is understanding my own body. You look at what I do per day and you would think its worthless - but , I'm losing weight and getting stronger .... Thats because I know my own body. As time goes on , you will see things change to a more structured type of fitness in both eating and training.

12 week diet plan


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DO NOT spread any meals over time. Everything that consists of a meal must be eaten all together at once. In other words, do not eat part of a meal and then eat the other part of the same meal 30 minutes later.
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DO NOT move around meals to different parts of the day. In other words, do not eat your breakfast meal for dinner or your dinner meal for breakfast.<o:p></o:p>
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Meal #1 7:45am

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- 4oz of Oatmeal. (use a measuring cup) After cooking to enhance flavor, add 3 Equals,<o:p></o:p>
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(Remember, it can only be one or the other. The Oatmeal or the bread, not both)
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PROTEINS
- 5 Jumbo Egg Whites. Hard boiled or prepare as omelet – Mazola non stick cooking spray.
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- 2 Scoops of Designer Whey Protein / Body Tech brand - Isopure. Mix with Water. Chocolate is a recommended flavor.

(Pick either the eggs or the protein shake)<o:p></o:p>

- With either of the choices, take a multivitamin, 12oz Water along with 3 UDO capsules. UDO Capsules help rid your body of carcinogens, free radicals along with other toxins in your body.<o:p></o:p>
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Meal #2 11:30am

CARBOHYDRATES
- 2 slices of Stone Ground Whole Wheat Bread
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- 8oz of grilled Chicken Breast, 6oz of Tuna Fish (light Mayo), 6oz of Roast Beef<o:p></o:p>
(Pick one of the above)<o:p></o:p>

NOTE – Season with, Onions, Celery, Lettuce, Tomato, Relish, Chicken Bouillon, Salt, Pepper, Oregano, etc.<o:p></o:p>
George Foreman grill using Mazola non-stick cooking spray works well for Chicken.<o:p></o:p>
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- 3 UDO capsules with daily supply of pure Creatine Monohydrate – 5 to 10 grams<o:p></o:p>
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Meal #3 2:30pm

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- 2 cups of Romaine or IceBerg Lettuce. With Cucumber, Red Onion, Balsamic or Red wine vinegar, small amount of Olive Oil.
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- 8oz of Shepherds salad. Use salt, lemon, vinegar, crushed red pepper to season

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PROTEINS
- 8oz Grilled Chicken Breast, 6oz Tuna Fish, 6oz Roast Beef <o:p></o:p>
Pick one of the above. (Season the same as meal #2)

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Meal #4 6:00pm

CARBOHYDRATES
- 3 Rice Cakes. Quaker brand – White Cheddar Cheese & Butter flavor are a good choice.
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- 2 scoops of Designer Whey Protein or Body Tech brand - Isopure<o:p></o:p>
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Meal #5 8:30pm

PROTEIN ONLY !!!
- 10oz of Beef – 93% Ground Beef, lean Sirloin Steak, Fillet Mingion, Flank Steak
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- 10oz Fish – Salmon, SwordFish, Halibut, Flounder, etc.
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- 10oz 93% Ground Turkey meat patties, Pork Tenderloin<o:p></o:p>
Pick 1 of the above with ¾ cup of mushrooms or onions & season with Salt Pepper, etc<o:p></o:p>
Again the George Foreman grill works great or Broiler or BBQ<o:p></o:p>
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[CleanYourClock]

Since Mike hasn't chimed in yet.:nixweiss: .......he told me Creatine tends to retain water. When I took it, it gave me plurecy(sp) where my lining of my lungs and heart would rub together. It was aweful, I could barely breathe and couldn't sleep a wink. I went off it, then back on it after I felt better, same result. Some people it just ain't good for.

Yes Tyler. Creatine will make you retain water . However , it effects everyone different. It sounds like you had a bad experience.
How many grams per day were you taking ?
Back in the day during a muscle building phase , I was taking 10 grams per day. I had no side effects except slight water retention.
At the moment I'm taking a minimal dosage of 3.5 grams a day with hardly a noticable water retention factor.

[Tyler Durden]

Yes Tyler. Creatine will make you retain water . However , it effects everyone different. It sounds like you had a bad experience.
How many grams per day were you taking ?
Back in the day during a muscle building phase , I was taking 10 grams per day. I had no side effects except slight water retention.
At the moment I'm taking a minimal dosage of 3.5 grams a day with hardly a noticable water retention factor.

I was taking 5000mg. I believe it does effect people different. Some people I have read had absolutely no benifit, others made significant gains.

Bob Sapp said thats all he takes in supplements, I guess it worked good for him :jester:

[FourHooks]

I'm around 17 years in the game ....
I understand what you are saying about protein maintaining muscle but , you are neglecting the fact that everyone is different ...
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I'm sorry bro, but you're wrong....Not everyone is different in this regard....Muscle needs protien to survive, end of story.....Muscles dont build off of creatine, they may be fueled by it, but they arent built on it

[CleanYourClock]

I'm sorry bro, but you're wrong....Not everyone is different in this regard....Muscle needs protien to survive, end of story.....Muscles dont build off of creatine, they may be fueled by it, but they arent built on it

Hooks , do you realize that YOU are telling ME that I'm wrong about MY own body that I have been working with for 17 years ?:rolleyes:

Who said I was trying to build muscle off of creatine ?? Did I say that ? - NO
Don't tell me about Protein. I have eaten more protein supplements and shakes in my life then you probably have had glasses of water ....

Whatever you think you know , I probably did 3 times over already.
I just don't think you understand where I'm coming from.
You are acting like I'm training for the Olympics when in reality I am just losing a few pounds WITHOUT diving into a full blown fitness only mentality. I also told you I was not trying to build muscle at the moment ....

If you think what I'm posting up is what I would use to get in good shape and build muscle , you are sadly mistaken. I'm posting up what I'm currently doing at the moment. Nothing more. You are reading to far into it.

[CleanYourClock]

This morning : 6/16/06
Skipped the gym this morning do to "crying baby" difficulties.
I plan on running 3 or 4 miles at 5.8 when I get home tonight. 3 minimum

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 scoop tuna on whole wheat
Salad with dressing
Various vitamins - creatine
2 bowls of corn flakes , 2% milk
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204 -
However , I really have been hovering around 203 1/2 for the last 2 days ...
I predict I will be a "real" 203 by this Tuesday or Wednesday.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->

[FourHooks]

Hooks , do you realize that YOU are telling ME that I'm wrong about MY own body that I have been working with for 17 years ?:rolleyes:

Who said I was trying to build muscle off of creatine ?? Did I say that ? - NO
Don't tell me about Protein. I have eaten more protein supplements and shakes in my life then you probably have had glasses of water ....

Whatever you think you know , I probably did 3 times over already.
I just don't think you understand where I'm coming from.
You are acting like I'm training for the Olympics when in reality I am just losing a few pounds WITHOUT diving into a full blown fitness only mentality. I also told you I was not trying to build muscle at the moment ....

If you think what I'm posting up is what I would use to get in good shape and build muscle , you are sadly mistaken. I'm posting up what I'm currently doing at the moment. Nothing more. You are reading to far into it.say bro, you dont want people to give you their opinions and input, dont post your fucking shit on the internet.....


I dont give a fuck what you think you know about you're body, protien is more important to muscle salvation during times of calorie depravation than creatine, period.....So take all of your protien shakes you claim to have drank in your 17 years and shove them up your bloated ass

[CleanYourClock]

say bro, you dont want people to give you their opinions and input, dont post your fucking shit on the internet.....


I dont give a fuck what you think you know about you're body, protien is more important to muscle salvation during times of calorie depravation than creatine, period.....So take all of your protien shakes you claim to have drank in your 17 years and shove them up your bloated ass

You aren't to smart ... Are you ?

Lets get something straight right now. I'm not bloated. I would out run you , out lift you , and out fight you any day of the week .... So if anyone would be getting something shoved up their ass , it would be you ....

Second , you never gave your opinion. You threw your word around as if it was Gods written law ...

Third , for the 5th time , I'm not on a calorie deprived diet and I'm not attempting to build muscle.

Take your dumb young ass and get the fuck outa here ..
Go tell your little friends how to diet and work out.

If you had ANY kind of a brain , you would have realized from the start that I'm not in a serious mode right now and more or less posting a daily activity.
Even after I told you that , you still acted like an ASS ....

WTF is wrong with you ?

[FourHooks]

You aren't to smart ... Are you ?

Lets get something straight right now. I'm not bloated. I would out run you , out lift you , and out fight you any day of the week .... So if anyone would be getting something shoved up their ass , it would be you ....

Second , you never gave your opinion. You threw your word around as if it was Gods written law ...

Third , for the 5th time , I'm not on a calorie deprived diet and I'm not attempting to build muscle.

Take your dumb young ass and get the fuck outa here ..
Go tell your little friends how to diet and work out.

If you had ANY kind of a brain , you would have realized from the start that I'm not in a serious mode right now and more or less posting a daily activity.
Even after I told you that , you still acted like an ASS ....

WTF is wrong with you ?I'll just address this and make an attempt to re-civilize things.....Go up a couple of posts and look at what you say you ate.....That is an extremely low number of calories....

other than that, whatever bro:inbed:

[CleanYourClock]

I'll just address this and make an attempt to re-civilize things.....Go up a couple of posts and look at what you say you ate.....That is an extremely low number of calories....

other than that, whatever bro:inbed:

This is low calorie ? :nixweiss:

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 small grilled chicken Cesar salad
Chicken fingers (breaded - fried) with honey mustard
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hot dogs with cheese
1 cup vegatable rice
1 cup Ice cream
Water throughout the day

[FourHooks]

This is low calorie ? :nixweiss:

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 small grilled chicken Cesar salad
Chicken fingers (breaded - fried) with honey mustard
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hot dogs with cheese
1 cup vegatable rice
1 cup Ice cream
Water throughout the daythe other sample menu you posted sans dinner was.....Pretty much no matter what your dinner was for the other menu you posted was, it was low calorie

And let me clarify, I dont see a problem with you taking creatine, I just dont think it is the most beneficial supplement you can take for your goal. IN MY OPINION (happy now) to lose weight you must expend more calories than you take in, which pretty much equates to depriving your body of the calories it needs to maintain. In that situation, it is MY OPINION, that protein becomes the most important form of calorie you can consume because of its proven effectiveness in muscle sparing and building.

I think its odd that you are so adamant about not needing protein while also being stuck on taking creatine because it makes you feel good.

[FourHooks]

This morning : 6/16/06
Skipped the gym this morning do to "crying baby" difficulties.
I plan on running 3 or 4 miles at 5.8 when I get home tonight. 3 minimum

3 cups of coffee - no sugar , 2% milk
1 Hard boiled egg
2 fig newtons
1 scoop tuna on whole wheat
Salad with dressing
Various vitamins - creatine
( will edit dinner tomorrow )
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 204 -
However , I really have been hovering around 203 1/2 for the last 2 days ...
I predict I will be a "real" 203 by this Tuesday or Wednesday.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->this is the samlpe menu I was reffering to.

[CleanYourClock]

this is the samlpe menu I was reffering to.

This was like the 3rd day . I never even entered what I ate for dinner or if I snacked after ...

Whatever Hooks .... There is no real point in us arguing ...

Peace ..

[CleanYourClock]

Saturday 6/17/06
4 cups of coffee no sugar , 2% milk
1 Bologna & cheese sandwich :nixweiss:
1 cheese Burger
about 10 beers
1 cheese steak

WEIGHT 204

Sunday 6/18/06
4 cups of coffee no sugar , 2% milk
2 eggs / cheese sandwich
1 10oz steak
1 chicken Parm sandwich
about 12 beers

WEIGHT 203

Monday 6/19/06
Morning , worked out on chest , abs
Total work out 1 hour 30 minutes
4 cups of coffee no sugar , 2% milk
1 cheese steak
4 beers
1 bowl of corn flakes , 2% milk
1 chicken sandwhich with cheese

WEIGHT 203

:jester: Hey , don't let the lifestyle fool you ... I dropped another pound and on Monday morning felt strong as hell in the gym ....
Thats the goal though , to live a fucked up lifestyle and still get in shape ...:jester:
Seriously though , I did burn allot of calories doing allot of work out in the heat on Saturday , Sunday , and Monday... (I was off work on Monday)

[CleanYourClock]

Morning 6/20/06
Worked out on shoulders
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
Total workout 1 hour 15 minutes

3 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
Chicken on pita with cheese roasted peppers
1 cup pasta salad
Various vitamins - creatine
Pepper steak with white rice
1 cup ice cream
water throughout the day

WEIGHT 202 1/2 :holla:

[Tyler Durden]

Quit copying my weight :box:

[CleanYourClock]

Quit copying my weight :box:

:jester: :jester: :jester: What did you start at ? I was 211 when I started cutting back.

[Tyler Durden]

:jester: :jester: :jester: What did you start at ? I was 211 when I started cutting back.

I started at 234 before I decided to go through with this and start posting, so now you want to be in the 202 club? I'm supposed to believe it's just a coinky dink? :nono:




:coffeekcik:

[CleanYourClock]

I started at 234 before I decided to go through with this and start posting, so now you want to be in the 202 club? I'm supposed to believe it's just a coinky dink? :nono:




:coffeekcik:

Thats my real weight ..... Thing is though , you will stop somewhere around 199 200 ..... I will keep going all the way down to the 180's ....:holla:

Hey , I heard you say something the other day that you don't have to body type to get abs ?
You can still get them regardless of your body type .... I know what you are sayin though about different body types having a hard time getting that cut up mid section ....
What I have noticed though - that when people do have that type of body and they do finally get abs , 9 times out of 10 they look really good and appear very strong when compared to the body types that get abs easily , body types like Bernard Hopkins for example.
Keep working towards abs , you will probably look very good if you can force past your body and break that barrier to get abs ...

[Tyler Durden]

Thats my real weight ..... Thing is though , you will stop somewhere around 199 200 ..... I will keep going all the way down to the 180's ....:holla:

Hey , I heard you say something the other day that you don't have to body type to get abs ?
You can still get them regardless of your body type .... I know what you are sayin though about different body types having a hard time getting that cut up mid section ....
What I have noticed though - that when people do have that type of body and they do finally get abs , 9 times out of 10 they look really good and appear very strong when compared to the body types that get abs easily , body types like Bernard Hopkins for example.
Keep working towards abs , you will probably look very good if you can force past your body and break that barrier to get abs ...

I don't doubt thats your real weight, i hoped the smilies made that clear :nixweiss:

When i was 13 in Jr. High, I weighed 105 pounds and was growing and almost 6 foot. I had NO abs and NO fat :nixweiss:

[CleanYourClock]

I don't doubt thats your real weight, i hoped the smilies made that clear :nixweiss:

When i was 13 in Jr. High, I weighed 105 pounds and was growing and almost 6 foot. I had NO abs and NO fat :nixweiss:

I knew you were joking ...

105 6 foot, no abs , no fat .... WTF :jester: :jester: :jester:

You had no abs because you were still developing ..... Not many 13 year olds have abs even when they are dirt skinny ....

I thought you were more of a husky type of build ...

[Tyler Durden]

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I knew you were joking ...

105 6 foot, no abs , no fat .... WTF :jester: :jester: :jester:

You had no abs because you were still developing ..... Not many 13 year olds have abs even when they are dirt skinny ....

I thought you were more of a husky type of build ...

I mentioned I was a ectomorph body type. I filled out around 19. Before then I was a rail. Like I said, I have lost 30 pounds and you can't really tell unless you seen me with my shirt off @ 230+. I have a slim profile build that can hide when I'm overweight.

Maybe I'll post a pic when I was 19 to show you what my abs looked like......nah :jester:

[CleanYourClock]

Morning 6/21/06
Worked out on back , abs
Ran 1 - 10 minute mile
Total workout 1 hour 15 minutes

3 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
Chicken wrap with honey mustard
1 cup pasta salad
Various vitamins - creatine
Chicken Murphy
water throughout the day

WEIGHT 202 1/2
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[Mr Roboto]

No 10 beers? what gives?

[Tyler Durden]

[/b]

I knew you were joking ...

105 6 foot, no abs , no fat .... WTF :jester: :jester: :jester:

You had no abs because you were still developing ..... Not many 13 year olds have abs even when they are dirt skinny ....

I thought you were more of a husky type of build ...

I've been thinking, maybe you are right about not being devoloped at 13. I have been working on my abs the past four months, I still can pinch an inch but that is alot less than what it was. Maybe in a few more I will show :nixweiss: I can say i never have tried to REALLY work them out. I'd say I have abs like Lennox Lewis I guess. (Notice I picked a great boxer to make comparisons to):jester:

[CleanYourClock]

No 10 beers? what gives?

:jester: Don't worry , I won't disapoint you this weekend ....

[CleanYourClock]

Morning 6/22/06
Worked out on legs
Ran 3 miles in 35 minutes
Total workout 1 hour 20 minutes

3 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
2 pieces of grilled Chicken
1 cup pasta/rice salad with peas
1 slice of chocolate cake
Various vitamins - creatine
2 hamburgers with cheese on english muffin
1 Birds eye vegtable pack
water throughout the day

WEIGHT 202 1/2

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[CleanYourClock]

Morning 6/23/06
Worked out on chest and abs
Total workout 1 hour 10 minutes

3 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
Salad with 4 raviolis
1 egg salad sandwich
Various vitamins - creatine
White Castle :pissed: - got stuck in work till 11:30 pm
water throughout the day

WEIGHT 202 1/2

[CleanYourClock]

Saturday 6/24
No workout

4 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 bowl of cereal - Rice checks with 2% milk
1 hot dog
1 meat ball
1 cup pasta salad
1 cheese burger
About 18 or more beers :nixweiss:

Sunday 6/25
No workout

4 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 bowl of cereal - Rice checks with 2% milk
Bowl of chicken smothered in rice
Various vitamins
About 6 beers

[Tyler Durden]

:nono:

[CleanYourClock]

:nono:

Not to Fear Tyler , I now weigh 201 lbs ....:holla:

[Tyler Durden]

Not to Fear Tyler , I now weigh 201 lbs ....:holla:

That beer diet is working :jester:

[CleanYourClock]

That beer diet is working :jester:

:jester: :jester: It seems after every weekend of drinking , I'm a pound lighter - and the pound doesn't come back either ...:holla:

[CleanYourClock]

Morning 6/26/06
No workout but , plan on running 3 miles later tonight

3 cups of coffee - no sugar 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
Panini with corned beef & cheese
1 cup of pasta salad
Various vitamins - creatine
(will edit dinner tomorrow)
water throughout the day

WEIGHT 201 - total loss of 10 pounds
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[Tyler Durden]

:jester: :jester: It seems after every weekend of drinking , I'm a pound lighter - and the pound doesn't come back either ...:holla:

Not me, I would get lighter, then put on another pound on top of what I lost :nixweiss: I guess my body would retain water.

[CleanYourClock]

Not me, I would get lighter, then put on another pound on top of what I lost :nixweiss: I guess my body would retain water.

That happend to me as well for the first 4 weekends or so ... I would drink and be heavier and it would take to the end of the week to lose it again.
Now I drink and I'm lighter after the weekend ... :nixweiss:

[Tyler Durden]

Looks like another case of often immitated, never duplicated :jester:

How many threads does this make, that stopped :nixweiss:

[CleanYourClock]

Looks like another case of often immitated, never duplicated :jester:

How many threads does this make, that stopped :nixweiss:


YO , YO , YO Tyler , I was out of work sick all week long ....
I had a sinus infection ...

Anyway , this thread has not ended .....

Also , I'm now down to 199 lbs :holla:

[Tyler Durden]

YO , YO , YO Tyler , I was out of work sick all week long ....
I had a sinus infection ...

Anyway , this thread has not ended .....

Also , I'm now down to 199 lbs :holla:
Ah, thought you were another one that bit the dust......you passed me :box:

[CleanYourClock]

Ah, thought you were another one that bit the dust......you passed me :box:

Correct me if I'm wrong but , did you gain some weight back ?:nixweiss:

[Tyler Durden]

Correct me if I'm wrong but , did you gain some weight back ?:nixweiss:

Yep, went ahead and ate some junk for a few days. Felt like shit, then went back to the routine.:nixweiss: I do this evry month or so, I was real close too :19:

[CleanYourClock]

Over the holiday weekend :

Ate numerous cheese burgers , hot dogs , BBQ chicken
Drank numerous beers , Captain morgan , Pina coladas etc ...
Ate cake , brownies etc ...
:nixweiss: Gotta have some fun

Anyway , I think I burned allot of calories though. I was throwing around small kids in the pool while I was drunk , cooking out in the sun , setting up tents and lawn furniture etc ....

Wednesday 7/5/06
No workout

3 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 chicken panini with cheese
2 cups pasta salad
2 cheese burgers
A few pieces of taffy and tootsie rolls :nixweiss:
Vitamins
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 199 TOTAL LOSS OF 12LBS :holla:
5lbs in the last 4 weeks

[CleanYourClock]

Thursday 7/6/06
Worked out on back
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 20 min

3 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
1 Steak cesar salad
1 cup pasta salad
1 chicken wrap (fried with cheese)
1 cup of rice
Vitamins
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 199

[CleanYourClock]

Friday 7/7/06
Worked out on shoulders
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 15 min

3 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
1 scoop of tuna on whole wheat
1 granola bar
Chicken Murphy
Vitamins
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 199
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[CleanYourClock]

Weekend - drank beers and ate steaks , burgers , hot dogs ...
Worked out on Saturday

Monday 7/10/06
Worked out on back
Ran 2 miles
Total workout 1 hour 15 min

3 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 hard boiled egg
1 banana
Baked Ziti
1 bowl of Cereal 2% milk
Vitamins
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 199
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[CleanYourClock]

Tuesday 7/11/06
Worked out on chest
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 20 min

5 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 tuna sandwich
1 Jamaican beef patty
Vitamins
3 chicken sandwiches and 3 cheese burgers from White Castle
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 198 :holla: 13lbs total loss ...

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[ikokjones]

Tuesday 7/11/06
Worked out on chest
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 20 min

5 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 tuna sandwich
1 Jamaican beef patty
Vitamins
(will edit dinner tomorrow)
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 198 :holla: 13lbs total loss ...

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when the jamaican patty enters the bloodstream, you're back at 200:jester:

[CleanYourClock]

when the jamaican patty enters the bloodstream, you're back at 200:jester:

:jester: :jester: Yea , allot of grease in those things ...

[CleanYourClock]

Wednesday 7/12/06
No workout

4 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 chicken panini with cheese
1 nutri grain bar
Vitamins
2 breaded and fried chicken cutlets
1 cup rice
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT 198

[CleanYourClock]

Thursday 7/13/06
Worked out on shoulders
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 20 min

3 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 banana
1 cesar salad
1 serving of flank steak
Vitamins
(will edit dinner tomorrow)
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 197 1/2

[CleanYourClock]

Tuesday 7/18/06
Worked out on chest
Ran 2.5 miles
Total workout 1 hour 20 min

4 cups of coffee - no sugar, 2% milk
1 tuna sandwich
5 small pieces of chicken
3 spinach pasteries
Vitamins
(will edit dinner tomorrow)
Water throughout the day

WEIGHT - 197
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[CleanYourClock]

Damm , I have been so so busy at work ...

Anyway , I have doing about the same shit with my diet and workout.
I have been drinking beer , eating what I want etc .... Ofcourse this was all part of the plan - you know , don't give up the good life and still get into good shape .....
Its all about "how much" you do and "when" you do it .....
Unless you are completely fucked with a medical condition or a fucked metabolism , there is no need to change your life. Just re-arrange it a little bit and workout !

Total loss of 15 1/2 pounds so far ...

WEIGHT - 195

[Kaliber44]

post pics bro

[CleanYourClock]

post pics bro

I haven't taken any recent ones ....

I'll see if I can dig up my fattest pic and then my thinest pic :jester:

The one thing I'm most angry about is the 2 separate times in my life when I was in the best shape , I don't have any pictures with my shirt off ...:pissed:

Once when I was 21 completely shredded and ripped and another time when I was 24 and was even more muscular and ripped ...
Oh well , can't go back in time ...

[CleanYourClock]

Damm , I have been so so busy at work ...

Anyway , I have doing about the same shit with my diet and workout.
I have been drinking beer , eating what I want etc .... Ofcourse this was all part of the plan - you know , don't give up the good life and still get into good shape .....
Its all about "how much" you do and "when" you do it .....
Unless you are completely fucked with a medical condition or a fucked metabolism , there is no need to change your life. Just re-arrange it a little bit and workout !

Total loss of 15 1/2 pounds so far ...

WEIGHT - 195

I'm still bouncing between 195 & 195 1/2 ....
I was wishing to be 193 or 194 by now but , it hasn't happend.
I'm looking good though in the muscle department. I'm thinking I might be stuck because I'm transfering weight from fat to muscle ... :nixweiss:


Anyway , WEIGHT 195 ...

[CleanYourClock]

I'm still bouncing between 195 & 195 1/2 ....
I was wishing to be 193 or 194 by now but , it hasn't happend.
I'm looking good though in the muscle department. I'm thinking I might be stuck because I'm transfering weight from fat to muscle ... :nixweiss:


Anyway , WEIGHT 195 ...

Well , I might have broke this little barrier 194 1/2 :coffeekcik:

[CleanYourClock]

Well , I might have broke this little barrier 194 1/2 :coffeekcik:

194 bitches :pissed: I should be lower .... Like before though , my muscles are looking good !!

I might have done a transfer because my shirts fit tighter while my pants fit loser ....:coffeekcik:

[CleanYourClock]

WEIGHT : 193

Yeah , I'm still going - well at my own pace anyway ...

I think I would be 192 but , I was away for a whole week for my job and I missed the gym and was eating shit like bagels with cream cheese for breakfast ...

I'm back now though and still lost a pound :sportif3: :sportif3:

[CleanYourClock]

Weight 195

I was going real good up until about 3 weeks ago. I was up to 198 but leaner then ever ... I had to take one week off because of work and then the very next week I got sick for awhile ... Now nearly 3 weeks later I'm back. I'm 195. I'm still muscle building at the moment but I will start stripping some more weight very soon .
For me its hard to strip weight when there is snow on the ground and its like 15 degrees ..

[Tyler Durden]

Getting sick sucks :grandpa:

[CleanYourClock]

Getting sick sucks :grandpa:

Yes it does !!
That was a huge setback. It will take 1 month just to get back to where I was ....

[Tyler Durden]

Yes it does !!
That was a huge setback. It will take 1 month just to get back to where I was ....

6 pounds, I hope so.

[CleanYourClock]

Weight 195

I was going real good up until about 3 weeks ago. I was up to 198 but leaner then ever ... I had to take one week off because of work and then the very next week I got sick for awhile ... Now nearly 3 weeks later I'm back. I'm 195. I'm still muscle building at the moment but I will start stripping some more weight very soon .
For me its hard to strip weight when there is snow on the ground and its like 15 degrees ..

WEIGHT 187

Of fuckin lean hard rock muscle .. :warning: :warning:

[CleanYourClock]

WEIGHT 184

I'm really ripped now and still putting up the same amount of weight in the gym.
I'm really shooting for a really lean look. It's been a long time since I was really truely ripped with that shredded look ...

[CleanYourClock]

DAMM - WEIGHT 180 !

It's been over a year since I started this thread.

I was 211lbs (not fat looking) Now I'm down to a completey ripped the fuck up 180 pounds of pure lean hard rock muscle.
A total loss of 31lbs.

I'm even thinking I could get down to maybe 178 or something.
Though I look much bigger. People guess me at over 190lbs.
I'm just going to maintain from here on out.
If I can lose another 2 maybe 3lbs , then that will fine.

WAR CYC ! :warning:

[Baron]

DAMM - WEIGHT 180 !

It's been over a year since I started this thread.

I was 211lbs (not fat looking) Now I'm down to a completey ripped the fuck up 180 pounds of pure lean hard rock muscle.
A total loss of 31lbs.

I'm even thinking I could get down to maybe 178 or something.
Though I look much bigger. People guess me at over 190lbs.
I'm just going to maintain from here on out.
If I can lose another 2 maybe 3lbs , then that will fine.

WAR CYC ! :warning:

Great stuff CYC, congratulations. I wish I had your resolve. I need to lose weight but I'm a lazy fucker... I try to do about 30 minutes of cardio each day but I cheat too often... I think I need a good slap in the face.

[CleanYourClock]

Great stuff CYC, congratulations. I wish I had your resolve. I need to lose weight but I'm a lazy fucker... I try to do about 30 minutes of cardio each day but I cheat too often... I think I need a good slap in the face.

It's all in your mind. Just do it man.
You can do it !

I'm working out 2 times per day right now. I'm married with a baby and work full time.
If I can go 2 times 5 days a week and 1 time on the 6th day , you can start working out once a day.

If you start now , you will be a completely ripped power house for this upcoming summer !! :clap:

[Father of Muzse]

DAMM - WEIGHT 180 !

It's been over a year since I started this thread.

I was 211lbs (not fat looking) Now I'm down to a completey ripped the fuck up 180 pounds of pure lean hard rock muscle.
A total loss of 31lbs.

I'm even thinking I could get down to maybe 178 or something.
Though I look much bigger. People guess me at over 190lbs.
I'm just going to maintain from here on out.
If I can lose another 2 maybe 3lbs , then that will fine.

WAR CYC ! :warning:

I think you should dip under 175 to receive consideration for Roy's next tune-up fight.

:bears:

[CleanYourClock]

I think you should dip under 175 to receive consideration for Roy's next tune-up fight.

:bears:

Seriously speaking , if I really had that kind of opportunity , I would jump on it just to say I did it.
If I didn't do it , I would regret it for the rest of my life.

[Haymaker]

Now, let's wait for I and I to move up and challenge you :lol:

[His_Royness]

CYC - Gotta pic??

[CleanYourClock]

CYC - Gotta pic??

Not at the moment. I'll take one soon though and post it up.

[I and I]

Not at the moment. I'll take one soon though and post it up.


I need a picture for the photo shop workshop, thanks dude. :popcorn:

[CleanYourClock]

I need a picture for the photo shop workshop, thanks dude. :popcorn:

A bag of bones like yourself isn't supposed to come into the the training and conditioning forum. :nono:

[LOK]

Not at the moment. I'll take one soon though and post it up.

where is the pic at Clean your cock?