Kell Brook v Errol Spence Jr

Who has ducked him? The top guys at 147 have all been fighting more meaningful fights against more qualified opponents.

When Thurman fought Porter and Garcia you could make a case he was the #1 fighting the #3. That would resume any lineage.

 

None of these welters can be pound for pound until they beat a guy called bailey

 

I wasn't aware that Bailey beat James Paige.

 

Much as I hate the sonuvabitch, Floyd is the ONLY one who had claim to welterweight CHAMP.

Since his retirement, that title has been up for grabs.

Spence and Thurman both have belts, and neither one can TRULY claim to be the champ until Thurman stops ducking him errrrr ummm I mean recovers from his "injury".

But once again, after tonight, Spence will go in as a pretty solid betting favorite. So not many people are gonna be expecting Thurman to leave as "the champ".

 

Thurman's the man at 147 and the only thing that's going to change that is if somebody beats him.

 

It's PAGE, motherfucker. hardest name to spell pfp ::

 

I watched that fight and now just a few cuntclusions

Brook is far better than most people ever gave him credit for. He has heart but his intelligence is bigger than his balls.

Spence is good but I cannot help but feel he may have lost that fight if Brook hadn't needed to drop weight and hadn't got the after-effects of the Golovkin lingering.

Brook would have given Floyd a really hard fight.

Spence will beat Thurman, Thurman is not as tough or as smart as Brook.

 

Todays guys, possibly Floyd apart,possibly...................are simply not in the same league as the class of '99.

 

As a general rule, British boxing fans are very very knowledgeable and appreciative,it's just the nature of the events that are organized, combined with the sort of Lad-Culture that's over here, that creates these sort of situations.

It's also been very very hot over here the past week,and goons have been losing the run of themselves.

 

Yes, but the facial bones are just a weak spot for Brook and he carried damage into the fight, I agree entirely with what you are saying, but let's not fool ourselves that GGG didn't soften up Brook some.

 

I agree with Bellends general sentiment but the chap simply does not have the requisite language skills to concisely express what it is he wanted to express.

What he was trying to say was that Brook needed to blank out any thoughts of being hurt, but not everybody is able to blank out thoughts as easily as our Tony, who has the advantage of never having any thoughts in the first place.

Brook basically arrived at a point where his head was telling him to stop and his heart was telling him to go on.

He did the right thing. The cause was lost.

 

How did Thurman do this...........by beating Danny Garcia and almost getting tooken out by old man Collazzo......

 

By beating Porter and Garcia. This is a bunch faux cynical boxing snobbery bullshit. Give the guy his fucking due. He's the #1 welter because he took and won the fights that mattered while the Cosby Kid was fighting Chris Algieri and claiming every top welter was ducking him to fight a p4p middleweight in front of a packed arena or on network tv.

 

Brook didn't fall apart in any mysterious or sudden way. He actually held up pretty well physically and faded in the second half like you would expect him to do against a strong body punching opponent. He was put under pressure, forced to work, took heavy body shots and got broken down. And his eye didn't fall apart until he slowed down and started to take heavy punches. And it was the other eye. Lol

 

The best 3 welterweights are pacquiao, thurman and spence. Spence requested to fight both. What more you can he do?

 

Actually fight them rather then live off hopes and dreams... Why are you cockriders making me talk bad about Spence? Lol

Fuck Pac. He's irrelevant.

 

Page was never a 3 time champ

 

You can call an opponent out publicly and face whoever is willing to face you. You can't make the unwilling do things they choose not to do

Brook was forced into that fight by the ibf

 

Eddie Hearn knows his market and he's made a shitload of money out of it. These events are targeted towards football fans, hence the singalongs etc, guys who watch boxing casually. To be fair to the guy he's actually been putting on some excellent fights recently but I couldn't go to watch one of his shows, it would do my head in.

 

If you're an elite fighter, you'll beat Brook but he'll give you a fight. If you're not a top level fighter he probably beats you. A very good boxer who is just short of elite himself.

Agreed that Spence would beat Thurman. Thurman might win a few rounds early on but will get walked down and taken out, quicker than Brook.

 

Oh my, that's impressive.

Porter fought Broner, Brook fought Porter, Brook fought GGG, Thurman fought Porter, Thurman fought Garcia.

At what point were any of them supposed to not do what they did and instead say "No! I'm going to fight this little known fella from Texas instead because that's the fight the people want to see! That's the fight that raises my profile and secures my boxing legacy!"

If Pac decides to fight notable contenders again before he retires he would fight Thurman, not Spence, because Thurman is the established champ at 147. Especially if you're talking about before yesterday when Spence actually beat someone. Wtf would Pac fight Spence? Is he desperate for boxing message board cred?

 

He demanded the Brook fight, got it and won. Fair dos.

 

Full stadiums and rowdy Brits are infinitely preferable to a half-interested room of comped gamblers, b-grade celebrities and sports stars in some shitty Indian reservation casino....Spence gets extra credit in my book for handling the partisan crowd, added proper occasion and atmosphere to a great bout

 

Think Spence broke Brook down and took his heart. I'm not going to give Brook stick for quitting. He could have carried on but maybe for his health and career, it was a good decision to not carry on.

 

How things have changed since 2000, eh ::

 

That's correct too, people like Pete Rose or Denzel Washington at ringside........aged retreads, up and coming sluts, faded stars etc.

I disagree wholeheartedly with what SKY did, turning down the sound to make out the Crowd were playing along.

 

The entire crowd was never going to be quiet. Pissed up and on drugs, havin' it large! Glad that a vast majority of the crowd actually listened to Buffer.

 

To be fair to Brook, he's no Victor Ortiz.

 

What GGG did to Brook is extremely overtated. He didn't give him some Tito-Vargas career altering beating. It was a 5 round fight.

Spence has a very sharp, very hard southpaw jab. I think he woulda always swelled Brook, even pre-Golov.

I see no room for excuses. Even in the rounds Brook did well, it looked like Spence was just analyzing him, choosing the time to turn up the heat. Once he did, the ass whuppin began.

Spence is a better fighter, and it would have been the same result pre-Golov.

The two things we CAN agree on:

1. Brook is better than Thurman.

2. Spence will beat Thurman.

 

I think the question is whether brook woul have quit if the ggg fight hadnt happened. Dude had to have his eye physically removed from his skull to have a titanium plate inserted, nobody wants to go thru that twice