Welter-weight Rankings....

[Double L]

What's your top 5 or top 10, as of now, at 147? Basically, if they all fought each other, who beats whom?

1. Margarito
2. Mosley
3. Clottey
4. Cotto
5. Cintron/Williams


I think Cotto/Clottey would be a savage fight. But I think it's one Clottey would win by close decision. And I think Cintron KO's Williams' leaky defense, and Cotto beats Cintron up, Margarito already beat Clottey , and I think he eeks out a decision against Williams.

Mosley/Clottey would be a scary fight too. Too close to call. I pick Mosley over Cotto though, because of his hand-speed and above average strength.

But man. This division is looking nice.

I don't know where to put Mosley though.

[Anthony]

I cant believe Cintron is a belt holder.

[Tam Tam]

What's your top 5 or top 10, as of now, at 147? Basically, if they all fought each other, who beats whom?

1. Margarito
2. Mosley
3. Clottey
4. Cotto
5. Cintron/Williams


I think Cotto/Clottey would be a savage fight. But I think it's one Clottey would win by close decision. And I think Cintron KO's Williams' leaky defense, and Cotto beats Cintron up, Margarito already beat Clottey , and I think he eeks out a decision against Williams.

Mosley/Clottey would be a scary fight too. Too close to call. I pick Mosley over Cotto though, because of his hand-speed and above average strength.

But man. This division is looking nice.

I don't know where to put Mosley though.

1. Cotto
2. Mosley
3. Margarito
4. Cintron
5. Baldomir
6. Williams
7. Clottey
8. Judah
9. Collazo
10. Quintana

[Anthony]

1. Cotto
2. Mosley
3. Margarito
4. Cintron
5. Baldomir
6. Williams
7. Clottey
8. Judah
9. Collazo
10. Quintana

You think Mosely, Cintron, Baldomir, Williams beat Clottey? I got Clottey right below miguel. A rematch with CLottey and MArgarito will be a win for Clottey.

[Tam Tam]

You think Mosely, Cintron, Baldomir, Williams beat Clottey? I got Clottey right below miguel. A rematch with CLottey and MArgarito will be a win for Clottey.

Yes, I do. Clottey has shown no reason to think he could beat a top flight fighter, IMO. Nice, semi-aggressive fighter. Short, crisp shots. Easy to hit. No stamina. Quits fighting and fouls.

Margairot handled Clottey with ease last time. If you chose to believe the hand excuse, so be it. But Clottey has never been anything more than a 5-6 round fighter. Hell, even Corrales had success against him at times.

But thats why rankings are individualised. There's no right answer.

[mexican wedding shirt]

A while ago I thought mosley was done, but after seeing the Vargas rematch and the collazo fight, no way. He looked almost as good as he ever has done at 147 in those fights.

I would be tempted to pick Mosley over Cotto.

For now though I would rank cotto #1.

1 - Cotto
2 - Mosley
3 - Margarito

No way cotto loses to clottey, or anyone else at welterweight other than mosley.

[Anthony]

A while ago I thought mosley was done, but after seeing the Vargas rematch and the collazo fight, no way. He looked almost as good as he ever has done at 147 in those fights.

I would be tempted to pick Mosley over Cotto.

For now though I would rank cotto #1.

1 - Cotto
2 - Mosley
3 - Margarito

No way cotto loses to clottey, or anyone else at welterweight other than mosley.

I dont give those wins over Vargas any credability. Vargas was shot. Anyone would have looked against thim. I think Mosely still has some proving to do. I see Margarito beating him similar to the way Forrest did. Maybe in a more devastating fashion.

[Tam Tam]

I don't give those Vargas wins any credibility in the context of this thread, because they weren't welterweight fights. The Collazo one was though and he looked as good as he has in years.

[mexican wedding shirt]

Vargas was shot, he looked shot in the second fight for sure, I agree. But still, if mosley had been shot too, he would not have wasted vargas like that, it would have been a more even fight

And I was impressed with the way he handled collazo too, he is no bum.

Forrest had the perfect style to neutralize mosley, anti mosley venom in his gloves as they say.

Margarito, no way. He is a basic pressure fighter, mosley is much better. And margarito is nothing like forrest, style wise.

I don't dislike margarito, he is quite fun to watch. I enjoyed his ass kicking of cintron, but to be honest I've always thought he was pretty overrated.

[mexican wedding shirt]

I don't give those Vargas wins any credibility in the context of this thread, because they weren't welterweight fights. The Collazo one was though and he looked as good as he has in years.

Exactly. Why do you think mosley appeared to be past it, then suddenly fought through the shot-ness, and is now looking pretty good?

[Double L]

Yes, I do. Clottey has shown no reason to think he could beat a top flight fighter, IMO. Nice, semi-aggressive fighter. Short, crisp shots. Easy to hit. No stamina. Quits fighting and fouls.

Margairot handled Clottey with ease last time. If you chose to believe the hand excuse, so be it. But Clottey has never been anything more than a 5-6 round fighter. Hell, even Corrales had success against him at times.

But thats why rankings are individualised. There's no right answer.

yeah. Clottey does fade now that you mention it. and Corrales wasn't exactly a proven quantity at 147. but Clottey's strong. and although he does go into lulls, he's good at getting the rest he needs. him against any of the guys at the top is gonna be a great fight whether he can beat em or not.

[valdosta]

I wonder where Clottey's next fight will be at. I don't think he has much time left at 147 if any.

[Mitchell Kane]

What's your top 5 or top 10, as of now, at 147? Basically, if they all fought each other, who beats whom?

1. Margarito
2. Mosley
3. Clottey
4. Cotto
5. Cintron/Williams


I think Cotto/Clottey would be a savage fight. But I think it's one Clottey would win by close decision. And I think Cintron KO's Williams' leaky defense, and Cotto beats Cintron up, Margarito already beat Clottey , and I think he eeks out a decision against Williams.

Mosley/Clottey would be a scary fight too. Too close to call. I pick Mosley over Cotto though, because of his hand-speed and above average strength.

But man. This division is looking nice.

I don't know where to put Mosley though.

I agree with your top two, and would move Cotto above Clottey. I think Williams is better than Cintron.

[dymipepel]

Where is Mayweather? In his last 3 fights, he beat:

1) Former weltwerweight champion of the world
2) Reigning, undisputed, true, linear welterweight champion of the world
3) Former undisputed, true, linear welterweight champion of the world

Mayweather is by far the number one welterweight in the world, no one else even comes close.

[Double L]

Where is Mayweather? In his last 3 fights, he beat:

1) Former weltwerweight champion of the world
2) Reigning, undisputed, true, linear welterweight champion of the world
3) Former undisputed, true, linear welterweight champion of the world

Mayweather is by far the number one welterweight in the world, no one else even comes close.

he's at 154. prolly no. 3 or 4.