Shane Mosley vs Jose Luis Castillo @ 135

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Does Castillo go the distance with a prime Shane?
     
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    Shane destroys him. Castillo is a B-class fighter.

    IMO this would have been a mismatch.
     
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    you can't be serious. and if you are, you might be stupid.
     
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    :lol:

    Yeah OK ... Castillo is a good solid fighter. However there is no way in hell he can match Mosely at 135.
    Fuckin Mosely would hit him 3 times before he even fired off a shot. Mosely's skill is one level above Castillo.
    Not to mention Mosely would match him in strength and stamina.
    No fuckin way does Castillo ever match a prime Mosely!
    Like I said , its a mismatch.

    You might be stupid if you think Castillo is or ever was a top elite fighter.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Lemme guess, you pick Castillo, right?:lol:
     
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    I pick Shane, but I can't see a mismatch. That's going too far. Shane by close decision.
     
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    Hater.

    Shane beats the hell out of Castillo.

    have you seen Shane at 135. He was more active and faster than your boy Floyd who spent the majority of his time trying to NOT fight Castillo.

    Shane would have won a wide UD.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Double will now tell you how underrated Castillo's skill and defense were.:lol:

    Your right though, Shane would have lit him up. Not to say Castillo wasnt a very good fighter, but he'd be way too slow and hittable for Shane.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Only if you consider 9-3 to be close. Shane stopping him with a body shot is also a very real possibility. A prime Mosley was a BETTER body puncher than Hatton.
     
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    Who did Shane fight at 135lbs that was in Castillo's class?

    I musta missed that shit!
     
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    Well for starters he destoyed Lejia. The same Lejia who went onto school Lazcano. The same Lazcano that Castillo lost 4 rounds to.

    Its not just about opposition. Mosley is a proven quality fighter, and had too much speed and ability for Castillo.
     
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    Last I checked, Castillo had a better chin, harder punch and hands at least as fast as a one WILFREDO RIVERA. I didn't see Shane beating him by a 9-3 type dominating performance by the time it was stopped.
     
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    Bro , you are just saying this shit because of the Castillo/Mayweather fight.

    If they had never fought , I know you are really smart enough to know a prime Shane Mosely would beat the crap out of Castillo.

    You shouldn't have PBF on your mind here. He is a different fighter with a completey different style then Mosely anyway.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Last I checked that fight was at WELTERWEIGHT, Shane's first fight at welter I may end. Castillo woulda LOST to Riveria at 147. This is a 135 matchup we're talking about here. Shane's right hand would unable to MISS Castillo's big ass head.
     
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    Good post. I agree with you in principle. Different styles. But I don't think it's a mismatch or dominating type performance. I've never seen Shane dominate ANYONE on Castillo's level.
     
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    hahaha! You're one hilarious fella brother X.

    When has Shane dominated a guy on Castillo's level?
     
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    He beat Oscar 8-4 in the first fight. I'm gonna be generous to Castillo and say he would win one less round than Hoya.
     
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    Castillo is like a Jeff Lacy in the sense that he is a solid good fighter and at times can look the part of an A-class fighter against certain opposition but , lets be real here. Just like Jeff Lacy , Castillo is a B-class fighter.
     
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    IMO , Shane would stop Castillo late in the fight.

    Not the same styles at all but , the beating itself would be similar to Trinidad/Mayorga
     
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    Nonsense! He would beat Arguello, Whitaker, and Pryor!


    So Double once claimed.:lol:
     
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    :lol: :lol:
     
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    I had Shane winning 7 rounds to 5, and it was a split decision if i remember correctly.
     
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    Doesn't matter. That was at 147 anyway.

    If Castillo had fought the Oscar of that night , he would have been in the fuckin hospital with brain damage.
     
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    You're right, it wasn't a 9-3 type performance...

    It was 9-0 and it was a 10 round fight!
     
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    You had Shane winning every round of that fight?
     
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    I believe I did.

    That's a fight revisionist historians act like Shane almost lost when the truth of the matter is, it was a decent scrap that Shane won by KO.

    Cats act like it was a come from behind victory or a fight barely within Shane's reach.

    It kinda reminds me of the Toney-Jirov fight when guys act like James whupped Jirov's ass the whole night when the truth of the matter is, the fight was up for grabs going into the 12th.

    Or...

    Oscar fight with Molina. Oscar EASILY won 8 rounds that night and you could make a case for giving Molina maybe three rounds.

    Same thing...different haters.
     
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    exactly. if he doesn't have an easy time with gomez, he certainly doesn't dominate Castillo.

    wins over the likes of John Brown and Leija don't impress me.
     
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    No matter how skilled Castillo was, he's still far too slow to deal with Shane. Mind you I like Castillo and I was one of the FIRST to speak about how he'd give Floyd hell PRIOR to the first fight.

    With all of that said, at 135 Shane's hands were too fast and chin was too good for Castillo to seriously threaten him. Not to mention, at 135 Shane was one hell of a body puncher and more importantly...

    Castillo had a size and strength advantage over the vast majority of his lightweight counterparties...that would not have been the case vs Shane. Shane usually weighed 147 the night of his fights.

    As we've seen Shane go up in weight and handle bigger punchers, there's no doubt Castillo couldn't hurt him. Plus, to date, Shane has NEVER had problems with guys his height or shorter.
     
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    I respect you very much as a fight analyst, you know this Musze, and as such you should know that Shane's handspeed is largely irrelevant because of the way he fights: slugging in spurts.

    He's handspeed is only an obvious advantage in the first couple of rounds, before he becomes stationary. He was the same at lightweight.

    Shane tended to have a size advanatge over his lightweight foes also.

    He and Castillo would be the same height and size, Castillo would take EVERY punch than Shane threw (Shane didn't punch anywhere near as hard as Corrales) and would beat him for Workrate (or AT LEAST match him).

    Shane would win, but it wouldn't be easy.
     
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    Yeah a split decision cause one judge musta been corrupt as fuck! You COULD give Oscar 5 rounds, but personally I thought it was 8-4 Mosley. Thats how Lederman scored it as well, and I dont always agree with Harold's card, but in this fight I did.
     

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