Holyfield - Wlad Klitschko, primes

**Ugotabe Kidding** · 08-22-2007, 09:23 AM

Wlad bust Holyfield up with his jab and wins a comfortable decision

**Father of Muzse** · 08-22-2007, 09:31 AM

I'd pick Holyfield. I think Evander gets in his chest and wears him out.

Wlad has been KO'd in every phase of his career and has shown a penchant for folding when things got rough.

I think Holy does him.

**Xplosive** · 08-22-2007, 09:38 AM

Prime Holy has too much toughness and will for that pussy.

Evander by late TKO.

**Ugotabe Kidding** · 08-22-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Father of Muzse

I'd pick Holyfield. I think Evander gets in his chest and wears him out.

Wlad has been KO'd in every phase of his career and has shown a penchant for folding when things got rough.

I think Holy does him.

I am not sure Evander gets past that jab, he has always been easy to hit and Wlad's jab has looked pretty impressive lately. Also inside I think WLad of these days could pull a Lennox and simply lean on Holy, not allowing him to go to work there

**Xplosive** · 08-22-2007, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ugotabe Kidding

I am not sure Evander gets past that jab, he has always been easy to hit and Wlad's jab has looked pretty impressive lately. Also inside I think WLad of these days could pull a Lennox and simply lean on Holy, not allowing him to go to work there

The Holy that Lummox fought was a far cry from the Evander from the early 90's. I think your underrestimating how quick Evander was, he'd definitely be able to slip inside that jab, and get in hooks, and mostly importantly, dig the body. A prime Bowe was able to beat Evander, but Riddick could fight inside, and most importantly, he had chin and stamina. Wlad has neither. Klit has beaten NONE to suggest to me he could handle a prime Holy. Evander eats him up, as does a young Tyson, Lewis, and Bowe.

**lb 4 lb** · 08-22-2007, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Xplosive

Prime Holy has too much toughness and will for that pussy.

Evander by late TKO.

Exactly. Holy by KO.

**Ugotabe Kidding** · 08-22-2007, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Xplosive

The Holy that Lummox fought was a far cry from the Evander from the early 90's. I think your underrestimating how quick Evander was, he'd definitely be able to slip inside that jab, and get in hooks, and mostly importantly, dig the body. A prime Bowe was able to beat Evander, but Riddick could fight inside, and most importantly, he had chin and stamina. Wlad has neither. Klit has beaten NONE to suggest to me he could handle a prime Holy. Evander eats him up, as does a young Tyson, Lewis, and Bowe.

Evander from the early 90s was easy to hit also and he didn't demonstrate much of one-punch power. He won a thriller over Dokes, was in serious trouble against Bert Cooper and got hit plenty by George Foreman. My problem with Holy in this fight is that he was indeed very easy to hit and Wlad is so quick, big and strong that he would give Holy a helluva fight, even though Evander might win it (which I don't believe though)

**Xplosive** · 08-22-2007, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ugotabe Kidding

Evander from the early 90s was easy to hit also and he didn't demonstrate much of one-punch power. He won a thriller over Dokes, was in serious trouble against Bert Cooper and got hit plenty by George Foreman. My problem with Holy in this fight is that he was indeed very easy to hit and Wlad is so quick, big and strong that he would give Holy a helluva fight, even though Evander might win it (which I don't believe though)

Evander's chin always made up for his lack of defense. He'd be able to take Wlad's best punches, but could Wlad take his? Also dont underrestimate Evander's power. He could always crack with his hook. Wlad gives Holy hell in the first half of the fight, but once the going gets tough, Wlad starts to fold as Holy begins forcing him to trade.

**CleanYourClock** · 08-22-2007, 12:31 PM

I see Wlad stamina giving out on him and Holy stops him late.

**Father of Muzse** · 08-22-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ugotabe Kidding

Evander from the early 90s was easy to hit also and he didn't demonstrate much of one-punch power. He won a thriller over Dokes, was in serious trouble against Bert Cooper and got hit plenty by George Foreman. My problem with Holy in this fight is that he was indeed very easy to hit and Wlad is so quick, big and strong that he would give Holy a helluva fight, even though Evander might win it (which I don't believe though)

If you stand in front of Wlad and don't make him pick up his feet he'll beat you all day. A young Evander could bounce in and out and counter over right hands and jabs.

It's well documented that Wlad is a mental midget, therefore it wouldn't take too many counters to discourage Wlad and get him off his jab.

**Bob N. Weave** · 08-24-2007, 12:05 AM

Im not even sure we have seen Wlads prime yet. He is definately catching steam as time goes. I bet he hits his prime in the next couple fights.

**Inside Whiskey's sister 24/7** · 08-24-2007, 12:12 AM

Holyfield Ko's him in 9 or less...

The first 4-5 rounds are competitive...Wladimir using the jab not allowing Holyfield to get into the fight...but Holyfield will start landing the right over the top...and going to the body with both hands..and that would be that....

**Hut*Hut** · 08-24-2007, 02:48 AM

Holyfield gets to him sooner or later, although the first 6 rounds might be hella rough for him. Wvlad doesn't have the heart or stamina to beat Evander, end of story.

**Ugotabe Kidding** · 08-24-2007, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hut*Hut

Holyfield gets to him sooner or later, although the first 6 rounds might be hella rough for him. Wvlad doesn't have the heart or stamina to beat Evander, end of story.

The shit about heart is very secondary. In real life Rocky does not beat Ivan Drago.

Also, when has Wlad's heart ever been a problem?