Brock Lesnar vs Fedor

[Bob N Weave]

You said cauliflower in general wasn't caused by punches you fool.

Obviously that is the case. I didn't know it at the time, as I don't give a fuck about amateur wrestling.

I obviously meant in Lesnars case. And yeah, in general, they aren't caused by punches. When you see cauliflower ear in MMA 99% of the time it is an experienced wrestler.

[sexperienced]

Fedor wins this however he wants.
If brock stands with him, brock gets KO'd quick.
On the floor, Brock gets subbed just as quick. Dont believe what Joe Rogan says about Brock. Brock will always be a mediocre wrestler and striker who, like sylvia knows how to use his size to win fights.

Fedor can KO and sub any heavyweight in the UFC right now if he wants to (yes, including Carwin). The longer he leaves it the harder it becomes.

[Anthony]

I don't know about that one GF...maybe longer

he was lifting Fedor's Whole body up with just one arm.

[Anthony]

Fedor wins this however he wants.
If brock stands with him, brock gets KO'd quick.
On the floor, Brock gets subbed just as quick. Dont believe what Joe Rogan says about Brock. Brock will always be a mediocre wrestler and striker who, like sylvia knows how to use his size to win fights.

Fedor can KO and sub any heavyweight in the UFC right now if he wants to (yes, including Carwin). The longer he leaves it the harder it becomes.

I dont know where you get mediocre wrestler from. 2 time NCAA Champion, Division 1 for four years in College with a record of 106 - 5 is hardly mediocre

[jarhead]

I dont know where you get mediocre wrestler from. 2 time NCAA Champion, Division 1 for four years in College with a record of 106 - 5 is hardly mediocre

Brock is talked about in Collegiate Wrestling as one of the greatest HW ever.

[sexperienced]

OK i'll take that back, I just don't believe his ground skills are enough to neutralise fedor, he will get subbed quick if the fight hits the ground. I'm aware wrestling helps but MMA isnt wrestling.
Brock hasnt fought anyone as quick as fedor on the ground.

[TLC]

I'm pretty sure wrestlers win about 80% of the Wrestler vs grappler matches...

[sexperienced]

wrestlers are grapplers, do you mean wrestler v other grappling styles?

BJJ and judo practioners win the most fights against wrestlers (these are judo players who adapt very quickly to the ground game).

[TLC]

GSP and Matt Hughes at their best only lost to other wrestlers. Sherk lost to BJ, but that wasn't grappling related. And before that, he was the champ in that WC. Same with PRIDE Hendo.

[Trplsec]

Personally I'll take a guy with Lesnar's wrestling background over a BJJ stud anytime.

The thing about great wrestlers in MMA, the majority of the time they control where the fight takes place.

If anyone thinks Fedor, or any HW for that matter, wants to be on their back with Lesnar on top of them, they are misguided.

As good as Fedor is on the ground, he is only human and Brock is a beast. Arm bar and kimuras from the bottom would be difficult even for Superman Fedor.

[TLC]

Fedor isn't even THAT good at them. A guy like Werdum is much better at subbing people, especially of their back. Fraud would know that though.

[Bob N Weave]

GSP and Matt Hughes at their best only lost to other wrestlers. Sherk lost to BJ, but that wasn't grappling related. And before that, he was the champ in that WC. Same with PRIDE Hendo.

Yeah....right......Serra and BJ were wrestlers.

[TLC]

Hell, even shitty ass Jason Brilz was able to neutralize Nogueira on short notice.

[Beyond the Grave]

Personally I'll take a guy with Lesnar's wrestling background over a BJJ stud anytime.

The thing about great wrestlers in MMA, the majority of the time they control where the fight takes place.

If anyone thinks Fedor, or any HW for that matter, wants to be on their back with Lesnar on top of them, they are misguided.

As good as Fedor is on the ground, he is only human and Brock is a beast. Arm bar and kimuras from the bottom would be difficult even for Superman Fedor.

[TLC]

Wrong topic.