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  1. 12-23-2010, 12:01 PM #1
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    Default The latest on the cruiserweight super six...it may be down to four

    Huck and Cunningham have to take care of mandatories first, Sauerland wants to include Wlodarczyk, who also has a mandatory due, and the last spot could be Herelius (who could fight Yoan Pablo Hernandez first) or Jones.

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    Although Sauerland Event is still bullish on putting together a cruiserweight tournament, which was originally conceived as a Super Six-style tournament but could be reduced to four participants, it will be put off again, Sauerland's Chris Meyer told ESPN.com. Originally, Sauerland Event hoped to begin it in December and then pushed it into early 2011. Now it may be moved back again as it tries to get mandatory bouts out of the way. First Marco Huck, who will be one of the entrants, made his mandatory defense last Saturday and outpointed Denis Lebedev. Next up, Steve Cunningham, who is also ticketed for the tournament, will defend his belt in a mandatory against Enad Licina on Jan. 22 in Germany. Sauerland also hopes to include titlist Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (who has an April mandatory against Francisco Palacios) and either Guillermo Jones or Steve Herelius, who also have belts. Herelius may fight mandatory Yoan Pablo Hernandez, another Sauerland fighter, in early 2011 with the winner going into the field. "We want the belts in the tourney but can't have the mandatories delayed," Meyer said.
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    “Boxing is made up of weight classes,” De La Hoya criticized. “Stick to your weight classes.”

    “Whitaker was so slick and to me, he felt like he was in a whole different class,” De La Hoya said. “He was a southpaw and he had all these tricky moves and everything. But he didn’t mind trading with you and Mayweather didn’t want to do that.”
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    Bunch of guys whose names I can't pronounce.Yawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish 2002/2003 View Post
    Bunch of guys whose names I can't pronounce.Yawn.
    If you can't pronounce Cunningham then maybe you need to work on your joke-telling.
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    “Boxing is made up of weight classes,” De La Hoya criticized. “Stick to your weight classes.”

    “Whitaker was so slick and to me, he felt like he was in a whole different class,” De La Hoya said. “He was a southpaw and he had all these tricky moves and everything. But he didn’t mind trading with you and Mayweather didn’t want to do that.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
    If you can't pronounce Cunningham then maybe you need to work on your joke-telling.
    I get as far as Cunning and then I start laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell Kane View Post
    Huck and Cunningham have to take care of mandatories first, Sauerland wants to include Wlodarczyk, who also has a mandatory due, and the last spot could be Herelius (who could fight Yoan Pablo Hernandez first) or Jones.

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    Huck already took care of his mandatory - he just beat Lebedev last weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Huck already took care of his mandatory - he just fought Lebedev last weekend.
    fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Huck already took care of his mandatory - he just beat Lebedev last weekend.
    LOL, yeah, I know, I wasn't thinking...I even tried watching it on a shitty feed I saw at EastSideBoxing...but it gave me too much of a headache.

    I did read the round by round thread they had of the fight...along with your fight recap.
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    “Boxing is made up of weight classes,” De La Hoya criticized. “Stick to your weight classes.”

    “Whitaker was so slick and to me, he felt like he was in a whole different class,” De La Hoya said. “He was a southpaw and he had all these tricky moves and everything. But he didn’t mind trading with you and Mayweather didn’t want to do that.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish 2002/2003 View Post
    fixed.
    Ha, yeah I know... Lebedev got robbed, blah blah blah. I landed in the very small minority of viewers who didn't seem to have a problem with the decision. Lebedev came on strong late in the fight, but didn't do all that much early on and also benefited from a blown knockdown call as well as not having a point deducted for excessive low blows.

    It certainly wasn't Huck's most impressive performance, but I honestly didn't see the Lebedev blowout/robbery that most others believe to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Ha, yeah I know... Lebedev got robbed, blah blah blah. I landed in the very small minority of viewers who didn't seem to have a problem with the decision. Lebedev came on strong late in the fight, but didn't do all that much early on and also benefited from a blown knockdown call as well as not having a point deducted for excessive low blows.

    It certainly wasn't Huck's most impressive performance, but I honestly didn't see the Lebedev blowout/robbery that most others believe to be the case.


    Anytime I see a guy fight in Germany, {and Lebedev is not a "German fighter" by any stretch of the imagination} and lose a decision despite having it scored 116-112 in his favour, my suspicions are immediately aroused.

    However, suspicions is all they are and suspicions they shall remain until I actually get round to watching the fight, which is perhaps a key difference between me and many of the people who have cried wolf in Germany down the years, preferring to see the fight, know they lost, and still claim they were robbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Ha, yeah I know... Lebedev got robbed, blah blah blah. I landed in the very small minority of viewers who didn't seem to have a problem with the decision. Lebedev came on strong late in the fight, but didn't do all that much early on and also benefited from a blown knockdown call as well as not having a point deducted for excessive low blows.

    It certainly wasn't Huck's most impressive performance, but I honestly didn't see the Lebedev blowout/robbery that most others believe to be the case.
    I think I saw a completely different fight. Not just the outcome, but how it went. To me Lebedev controlled the fight early and build a solid lead (5-2). Then Lebedev stopped throwing to the body around round eight or nine and Huck made it close down the stretch.

    What I never understand is why fighters stop doing what is so obviously working. Maybe corners need to get onto ringside monitors to get a clearer view, because Huck was hurt every time Lebdev landed to the body, and he completely went away from it late. Huck was complaining about a broken rib, too. It´s really like Lebdev didn´t want to win. You cannot even say that he started head-hunting more aggressively, he just stopped.

    I´ll agree though that the knockdown seemed like a blown call. Nobody seemed to care afterwards though, so maybe Lebedev´s feet got indeed tangled with the ringside advertisement, but there was certainly a punch landed.

    I think Lebedev should have gotten it around 8-4/7-5 with a draw giving Huck every benefit of the doubt.
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    Until I get a computer w/ HD capabilities, I will always willingly concede that maybe what I saw on my tiny online stream wasn't quite the best reflection of what actually took place. Watching Solis-Austin the night before, I couldn't believe when I read after the fact that Austin was actually WINNING on one card and even on another going into the 1oth round!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish 2002/2003 View Post
    fixed.
    Lost money on that and the Hopkins fight that weekend. After losing money on Ortiz-Peterson the week before. Mugs game.
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    fuck all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hut*Hut View Post
    Lost money on that and the Hopkins fight that weekend. After losing money on Ortiz-Peterson the week before. Mugs game.
    If you had bet on Lebedev you should have stayed aorund and bet in running at bet365. Huck was 6 for 1 toward the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Until I get a computer w/ HD capabilities, I will always willingly concede that maybe what I saw on my tiny online stream wasn't quite the best reflection of what actually took place. Watching Solis-Austin the night before, I couldn't believe when I read after the fact that Austin was actually WINNING on one card and even on another going into the 1oth round!


    saw it like ElT... all the online bookies who usually know of those hometown decisions turned odds heavily in favor of Lebedev during the fight. even the german commentary thought he won...

    thought it was pretty clear for Lebedev.
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