Biggest effort and NON effort while LOSING their FIRST title fight.

[Destruction and Mayhem]

Honestly, Im too young to be caught up in the Aboriginal affairs - my experience has been only of them receiving the same rights as whites (Im 27) with a few exceptions - those being benefits reserved exclusively for Aboriginals & the related Torres Strait Islanders - such as leg-ups in education, housing, mortgages etc. I know of these because my one of my sisters' kids are half-Aboriginal, & therefore eligible to those benefits whites & other nationalities do not receive - so in my relatively short life, it hasnt been so bad, at least in terms of the Government. Obviously on the street, there is still a tonne of resentment today between whites toward Abos, & vice-versa.

"Abos" have been treated like shit for centuries. Treated worse than any other race on the planet. Glad they're getting a few concessions now. They deserve it. They are probably still relegated to the shitholes to live in though and have very little chance of scoring a good job in the city. They have the highest suicide rate on the planet from what I once read.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Fair enough. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

But I do know that Australia has traditionally been the most racist nation on Earth...having a "WHITE AUSTRALIA policy" for almost 100 years. ANd the way the Australian Aborigne has been treated....Ai yi yi! I think they've only be counted as humans in the last 20 years or so, only recently being able to vote.

So I would hate for you to have been caught up in that madness.

Define, 'recently?'

I wasnt sure off-hand, but I was quite certain Aboriginals had voting rights further back then the last 20 yrs. Looked it up and national voting was approved in 1967, with State voting occurring earlier.

Australia has a bad history with racism at the Governmental level, but I surely could not see it as the most racist nation on Earth. There have easily been worse and similar.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

"Abos" have been treated like shit for centuries. Treated worse than any other race on the planet. Glad they're getting a few concessions now. They deserve it. They are probably still relegated to the shitholes to live in though and have very little chance of scoring a good job in the city. They have the highest suicide rate on the planet from what I once read.

In the Northern Territory, it is very grim. There are a lot of problems with crime, incest, & alcohol is a persistent theme. Its true that you do see a lot of Aboriginal homeless in Sydneys CBD, but Sydney may as well be a different planet in terms of treatment & opportunities to the dastardly Nth. Territory.

[Irish 2002/2003]

Most of the good ones have been already picked so.......



Effort: Byrd vs Vitali, Brewster vs Wlad

Non-Effort: Junior Witter vs Zab Judah

[KaukipRrr]

I wouldnt rush to judgement for judgements' sake on this one. I wouldnt be saying what Im saying if this were my experience with the majority of Islanders. After all, a lot of Aussies in Sydney take a dim view of the sizeable Lebanese community we have - pack-mentality cowards, thugs, violent, rapists etc - & sure, there is a big element of that which really hurts their image - but I cant prejudice them because I understand it for what it is - some letting others down.

However, Sydney has a massive Fijian/Tongan/Maori/Samoan population - & in all my years, I cannot recall seeing one - not one! - who wasnt clinically obese and adoptive of a lazy attitude toward any kind of work. I'll leave aside the two other popular stereotypes Sydney has toward them, but this one has proven infallible beyond exception. David Tua ir allegedly an elite athlete, or was, but he was rarely, rarely able to keep his weight down, because its his culture, as an islander (he is either Samoan or Tongan from memory) to over-eat massively & just avoid the hard yards. In the protective bubble of having rare motivation, as an athlete does, he received some protection from that. However it is said a man cannot hide from who he is inside the ring - & like Golota, Tua was exposed by Lewis. I think if you had been here the many years I have, & been confronted with the amazing consistency I have, I dare say youd have the same ideas.

There's a theory out there, that the second wave of Lebanese immigrants into Australia, occurred through similar circumstances that are described in the movie 'Scarface' ,..the authority incharge in Lebanon sent the then sympathetic prime minister Malcom Frazier the dregs of thier society,.. and if you look at the EARLIER wave of Lebanese immigrants they've become extremely successful citizens,.. Bob Katter sr, Bob Katter jr, Steve Bracks, John Symonds, Marie Bashir for example...

I'm not sure about the Islander situation down there lol,.. but it seems you really have been affected you poor bastard.

[KaukipRrr]

This post sounds a little prejudice, Ramonza. You're Portuguese, don't forget that, don't get caught up in the racist Austrailian metality towards non-whites.

Who's "Australian" in your mind? ,.. People here are descended from all sorts of European mixes.

[cdogg187]

and portuguese people are white, caucasian if you will
wtf, sly?

[KaukipRrr]

and portuguese people are white, caucasian if you will
wtf, sly?

Here's a 'white racist australian larrikan' ,...

.......of Lebanese descent, oops.

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

I cant say I experience much racism at all - beyond the odd generic call, no. I look Portuguese but theres no accent. Im usually mistaken for Greek, Italian or sometimes Lebanese, but its not often Im subject to racism.

I definitely do not consider myself any kind of minority, Sly. I may not be Anglo, but I am a white Australian.

[loadedgloves]

Ramonza is a muzza!

[Destruction and Mayhem]

and portuguese people are white, caucasian if you will
wtf, sly?

I know that. But the white Australians are typically descended from the British who have far less tolerance than the Pork Chops.

[meetthefeebles]

I know that. But the white Australians are typically descended from the British who have far less tolerance than the Pork Chops.

You really get bullied a lot as a kid, huh Sly?

MTF

[Irish 2002/2003]

Everytime Sly starts moaning about Race, I think of Steve Buscemi' Mr Pink in Reservoir Dogs where he does that impression of the "Worlds Smallest Violin"

But Sly doesn't deserve to have Steve Buscemi/Reservoir Dogs embedded in his honour.

Instead, he gets this:

[Ramonza Soliloquies]

Ramonza is a muzza!

A...?

[KaukipRrr]

A...?

So what's happening with the islanders Ramonza, I hear alot about the Lebs, but don't hear much about Islander gangs or the like,.. What has been your prolonged experience with them?