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    I don't think any of those decisions were worse than Pac vs Bradley really. They were all bad though.

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    i consider bradley vs pacquiao the best decision ive personally witnessed in boxing. since i began watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzse View Post
    The question is....was it the robbery of the year? Was the decision so bad that boxing will never recover?

    That's what youre supposed to believe. Truth of the matter is it fails on both those fronts. "Like i said before" the Cloud decision was far worse. The Brandon Rios fight was far worse. Williams - Lara was far worse.

    That's the point.
    It was one of the 3 highest profile fights of the year. And one of the very worst decisions to boot. So i'd say so, by a mile, yes.

    In 30 years it'll be right in the conversation with Pernel-Chavez, Lewis-Holy I etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hut*Hut View Post
    It was one of the 3 highest profile fights of the year. And one of the very worst decisions to boot. So i'd say so, by a mile, yes.

    In 30 years it'll be right in the conversation with Pernel-Chavez, Lewis-Holy I etc.





    30 years from now we will reconvene and see if you're correct. I will add that the Whitaker and Lemmon fights were clearly the robberies of their respectful years, if Bradley-Pac makes the grade in 30 years it's more a function of hyperbole than fact.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzse View Post




    30 years from now we will reconvene and see if you're correct. I will add that the Whitaker and Lemmon fights were clearly the robberies of their respectful years, if Bradley-Pac makes the grade in 30 years it's more a function of hyperbole than fact.




    How many people honestly thought Bradley won? Where are they? I think more people agreed with the Pernel & Lewis robberies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hut*Hut View Post
    How many people honestly thought Bradley won? Where are they? I think more people agreed with the Pernel & Lewis robberies.

    I can think of two important ones who thought he won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzse View Post
    I can think of two important ones who thought he won.
    Bit of a circular argument that, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hut*Hut View Post
    Bit of a circular argument that, no?
    Not really considering the question you'd asked didn't address what I've maintained. I've never said any majority thought Bradley won. I didn't even say I thought he won.

    The point I made (several times) is there were worse decisions in this year that should have received the same amount of scrutiny and outrage. That doesn't say the Bradley win was a good decision, it means precisely what I stated.

    In the case of the Whitaker and Lemmon fights...save for Mexicans (who will tell you in hushed tones Chavez lost that fight) and Double L...the vast majority do not believe Chavez nor Holyfield deserved the decisions.

    if it makes you feel better, perhaps you should do research and come up with polls taken at the time to push your point further down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzse View Post
    Not really considering the question you'd asked didn't address what I've maintained. I've never said any majority thought Bradley won. I didn't even say I thought he won.

    The point I made (several times) is there were worse decisions in this year that should have received the same amount of scrutiny and outrage. That doesn't say the Bradley win was a good decision, it means precisely what I stated.

    In the case of the Whitaker and Lemmon fights...save for Mexicans (who will tell you in hushed tones Chavez lost that fight) and Double L...the vast majority do not believe Chavez nor Holyfield deserved the decisions.

    if it makes you feel better, perhaps you should do research and come up with polls taken at the time to push your point further down the road.
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    From memory, more people thought Holy and Chavez won, and bear in mind they were both DRAWS, Pacquiao got a fucking loss on his record in a fight he won 10 rounds of.

    Given that, I don't see any argument that this is less of a robbery. Almost no one genuinely believes Bradley won, and to top it off, it's an official loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mexican wedding shirt View Post
    From memory, more people thought Lewis and Chavez won, and bear in mind they were both DRAWS, Pacquiao got a fucking loss on his record in a fight he won 10 rounds of.

    Given that, I don't see any argument that this is less of a robbery. Almost no one genuinely believes Bradley won, and to top it off, it's an official loss.

    I think you meant Lemmon and Whitaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzse View Post
    I think you meant Lemmon and Whitaker.
    No I didn't, I meant Chavez - and Lewis was a typo, I meant Holyfield ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mexican wedding shirt View Post
    From memory, more people thought Holy and Chavez won, and bear in mind they were both DRAWS, Pacquiao got a fucking loss on his record in a fight he won 10 rounds of.

    Given that, I don't see any argument that this is less of a robbery. Almost no one genuinely believes Bradley won, and to top it off, it's an official loss.
    Against Whitaker?? Methinks your memory is faulty :)

    I don't recall anyone at that time who thought even Chavez getting the draw was remotely fair. The decision caused every bit as much of an outrage as the Bradley-Pac decision.

    Over the years, some Whitaker-haters like Double L have tried to make a case for it being a close fight, but that isn't remotely close to the truth.

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    This is the most ridiculous decision I have seen since Whitaker/Ramirez I

    I was rooting for Bradley, I picked him to win, wanted him to win. He lost by a mile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hut*Hut View Post
    It was one of the 3 highest profile fights of the year. And one of the very worst decisions to boot. So i'd say so, by a mile, yes.

    In 30 years it'll be right in the conversation with Pernel-Chavez, Lewis-Holy I etc.
    LOL it's only been 3 weeks and most smart boxing fans have figured out they got duped into thinking a close fight was one-sided.
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