What is the reason for the bad decision?

**Double L** · 06-12-2012, 02:31 PM

More lately, the play for promoters and commissions when it comes to bad decisions is to write it up as incompetence on the part of the judges. We saw judges in New Jersey, for example, suspended and required to take training in the wake of the Williams/Lara fight (as if).

And now, in the wake of the Bradley/Pacquiao decision, we have agreement among Arum and Schaefer, who otherwise can't agree on anything, that the decision was due to incompetence, not corruption.

So basically, we have Arum going on the offense in a situation when he should clearly be relegated by the press to defense, and we have Schaefer saying nothing commital whatsoever on the topic, except to be clear that it was not corruption (because if it were the logical conclusion would be that he too engages in such corruption).

Not to get off topic, but when the coverage looks to Arum and Schaefer for answers, there should be little surprise that time after time things like this happen, and time after time, the public is left wondering.

At any rate, place your vote as to whether you think this obviously bad decision was due to incompetence (as Arum and Shaefer and every other part of the establishment would have us believe) or to in my view the much more likely reason, corruption.

**mexican wedding shirt** · 06-12-2012, 02:34 PM

Incompetence is impossible. Even Pacquiao haters are giving Pacquiao 10 out of 12 rounds.

Blatant corruption, the only thing I really wonder about now is whether Pacquiao and Bradley were in on it.

Bradley's corner telling him he was winning, as he was getting schooled, Bradley putting his hands up immediately after the fight, Pacquiao not, team Pacquiao's non-reaction to the decision, it's all a bit fucking suspect. Plus of course the big fake rematch ticket in the pre fight press conferences etc. Who knows, but it really does all point to both of them being in on the fix.

**steve_dave** · 06-12-2012, 02:42 PM

The fact is, no one here has any idea.

***Z*** · 06-12-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by steve_dave

The fact is, no one here has any idea.

Yep, and probably never will.

**Double L** · 06-12-2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by steve_dave

The fact is, no one here has any idea.

Actually, as people with an ounce of reason and common sense, we do have an idea (most of us anyway). And the idea is that this was corruption.

I'm with MWS that we can only speculate as to whether or not the fighters themselves were in on it.

But yeah, the fact we're rationale beings, and the point of the thread, is that yes, despite what Arum wants us to believe, this was indeed corruption. No question about it.

**Destruction and Mayhem** · 06-12-2012, 03:22 PM

The reason is Floyd. Floyd is the cause of all of boxing's ills.

**steve_dave** · 06-12-2012, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Double L

Actually, as people with an ounce of reason and common sense, we do have an idea (most of us anyway). And the idea is that this was corruption.

I'm with MWS that we can only speculate as to whether or not the fighters themselves were in on it.

But yeah, the fact we're rationale beings, and the point of the thread, is that yes, despite what Arum wants us to believe, this was indeed corruption. No question about it.

Cool dawg. Can you prove it?

**Irish 2002/2003** · 06-12-2012, 04:13 PM

Applying Ockhams Razor, the fastest simplest and probably most accurate conclusion is that this is plain corruption with some form of complicity.........is Pacquaio involved, I don't know. Is Arum? Probably.

**puerto rock** · 06-12-2012, 04:38 PM

The thing is, who stands to gain the most out of this??

BOB ARUM...

Its simple. Sabotage any chance for Mayweather and Pacquiao to fight this year, while setting up another safe fight that will bring in ppv numbers....

Mayweather-Pacquiao was never going to happen.

**Haymaker** · 06-12-2012, 05:08 PM

Manny has to be involved in that shit somehow. He could've knocked Bradley out anytime, and then after the decision, he's just happy to fight the rematch while everybody out there is crying outrage.

***Z*** · 06-12-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by puerto rock

The thing is, who stands to gain the most out of this??

BOB ARUM...

Its simple. Sabotage any chance for Mayweather and Pacquiao to fight this year, while setting up another safe fight that will bring in ppv numbers....

Mayweather-Pacquiao was never going to happen.

If Arum was willing to risk pac's populatiry with a loss, why the hell would he do it against Timothy Bradley and not Mayweather? He could have made way more cashing Pac out against Mayweather.

**Haymaker** · 06-12-2012, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by *Z*

If Arum was willing to risk pac's populatiry with a loss, why the hell would he do it against Timothy Bradley and not Mayweather? He could have made way more cashing Pac out against Mayweather.

Because he OWNS Bradley. And by stealing Manny of the win, Manny still looks good in the eye of the public.

***Z*** · 06-12-2012, 05:56 PM

I guess you're right, it just seems like a lame way to go about it if Arum is behind this. You'd think he'd go a less obvious route.

**Double L** · 06-12-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by *Z*

If Arum was willing to risk pac's populatiry with a loss, why the hell would he do it against Timothy Bradley and not Mayweather? He could have made way more cashing Pac out against Mayweather.

Uh, because unlike PBF, he promotes Bradley, which means when Pacquiao fights Bradley, he doesn't have to split his money with GBP.