So who can GGG fight?

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Usually the old adage of "Nobody wants to face this guy" is bullshit, but GGG might the first case we've seen in which it's 100% true.

    Quillin's scared to death of him. Roach is too scared to let Cotto fight him. Canelo sure as Hell ain't gonna fight him.

    Then at 168, neither Froch nor Chumpez Junior wants to fight him. And Ward is basically fucking retired.

    Who can GGG face?
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I am not sure that Froch won't fight him. Let's see GGG push for that and see if they can make it happen. How about Dirrell, De Gale or Groves, they would all be some kind of threats for a smaller guy. Arthur Abraham won't fight him. Usually I wouldn't demand for a fighter to challenge the guys from upper division, but GGG has to if he wants to achieve a status as a legend, since his own division is all empty.

    In middleweight there are no credible contenders, but I wouldn't mind Taylor or Murray as next opponents.

    Basically what I would like to see from GGG is either
    1) pushing harder for bigger fights and demanding his opponents to the same ring. It is easy to say that nobody wants to fight him and it might even be true, but I'd like to see him convince us for that
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    2) fight more often. If only these b-class guys will fight him, then fight eight times a year and take them out in brutal fashion
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I don't think Froch wants anything to do with GGG. The Froch of 4-5 years ago would have no problem facing GGG, but not now. I think he wants to fight Chavez and retire. I think he feels very confident of beating Chavez, and knows it's a big money fight. Froch is a very self confident guy, but when it comes to GGG, I think he knows deep down inside that it wouldn't end well for him. And he wants his final fight to be an impressive win, not a stoppage loss.

    Does that make Froch a bitch? Hell no! The guy has fought nothing but the best. He's entitled to fight a scrub like Chavez in his going away fight.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    i think you're making a lot of assumptions when it come to who want and don't want to fight GGG. The onus is on him to show that he want to face top opposition. The ''nobody want to face me'' defense can only bring you so far. I don't believe for a second that , with all the HBO backing he has, he cant secure a top opponent. If he has to take a pay cut to do so, so be it, cause at 32, it's not like he has a lot of time to spare. At this rate, it looks like he's going to be a second Joe Calzaghe (if even that). Sad, has he has the potential to be so much more.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Calz hid his slapping ass in the UK for his entire career. Until he smelled that Hopkins, and Jones were on their last legs, then he swooped in like a coked up vulture, and came to the states.

    GGG is in the states obliterating guys in front of a national audience. He's already better known in the US than Calz ever was. You'd think he has enough recognition that guys would be willing to fight him.
     
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    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Froch has never struck me as the kind of guy who'd shy away from fighting anyone. I believe his comments about not fighting GGG were solely meant for the sake of flattery rather than a sign of his being afraid to fight the guy.

    Froch's record speaks for itself. He has no reason to fear GGG. If anything, GGG has to prove he'd be worthy of a fight with Froch.

    If the right amount of money were on the table, Froch would take the fight in a heartbeat. All this "Froch wants no part of GGG" talk is just that, talk.
     
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    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Jean Pascal
    Jermain Taylor
    Andre Dirrell
    Mikkell Kessler (2x's)
    Arthur Abraham
    Glen Johnson
    Andre Ward
    Lucian Bute

    If you want to throw in George Groves twice, be my guest.

    Those are Froch's fights over the past six years. Why in the world would he be hesitant to fight a guy that hasn't fought anyone?

    Ridiculous
     
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    Lets not turn this into another Calzaghe-bashing thread. I'd like to see Froch-GGG
     
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    I don't think he's scared either but bringing up "the right amount of money" means nothing as that goes for every fighter ever. For a few million dollars anybody on this forum would fight GGG.
     
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    I only mention the amount of money offered because Froch would be the A side of the promotion and they'd have to make it worth his while. An offer of less or parity with GGG is an insult and a non-starter; therefore, a few million wouldn't mean anything to Froch.

    He'd get that anyway.
     
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    If a LEGIT Offer is Made to Froch, he'd Fight GGG...As you Noted, NO Fighter has a Better Resume, in the Last 5-8 Years...


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    Froch isn't 'frightened' of GGG. For perhaps the first time history, I agree with Muzse. Froch has shown categorically that he is too much of a self-confident farmer to be frightened of anyone. His resume is exceptional. But X is absolutely spot-on. Froch spent about four years fighting in other people's backyards - Taylor's hometown in his first defence, Kessler's homeland for the first fight, Ward's backyard etc and as a result has taken the short financial end of too many even-money fights in foreign countries. He's old now and he knows it. Froch wants a big Vegas payday in a low-risk fight against someone he thinks he'll look sensational against before he retires.

    He's entitled to it IMO. If anyone in modern boxing is entitled to one last payday against someone he probably lights up, it's Froch.

    MTF
     
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    Good Post...

    #1 on Your List is EASY to Accomplish...Simply PUBLICIZE your Offers to Other Fighters, Basically SHAMING them into an Agreement...

    #2 is What Kovalev's Been Doing, Leading Up to the Hopkins Fight..

    And of Course, There's Always '68...





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    I'm not usually a massive advocate of punchers at 160 going up to 168. History has shown that several hard-hitting middles (Benn, McClellan, Pavlik, Abraham to name but four) lose a lot of their potency at the higher weight, even though it's only 6lbs extra. But GGG really is fighting in possibly the worst middleweight pond in history and he's achieving very little by beating the snot out of shite like Rubio. He should move up. Even a fight with someone like Kessler would be a MASSIVE improvement on the dross he is lighting up so far.

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    Good point MTF, historically hard punching middles don't do well at 168.

    Foe example lightweights moving to welterweight have done much better - Duran, Mosley, Floyd, Pacquiao.
     
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    golovkin should fight murray or korobev next
     
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    I don't think either will fight him. They are both very decent fights if they happen, though.

    MTF
     
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    korobev has said he wants to fight golovkin
     
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    Korobov would not be an acceptable fight. The guy has shown very little thus far, and looks like a very average fighter. You do not becomes a good fighter just because HBO hypes you
     
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    Korobov would be a better fight than Rubio was. That was an absolute load of shite from the second it was mooted, let alone signed.

    MTF
     
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    I can't lie, I haven't even seen Korobov fight - but his level of competition makes Gaybox's look awesome.
     
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    you're not missing much
     
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    Apparently he's good enough to make Peter Quillen pass on $1.4 million to fight him.
     
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    He looks a decent prospect. He's not a lot more than that at this stage but he seems decent to me. He's a lot better than Rubio, though that is hardly saying a lot.

    MTF
     
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    Guarantee you if he were to fight somebody like Froch and destroy him, Muzse would be in here with "he beat a washed-up Froch, big deal"
     
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    Froch's shit is paid for.
     
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    If he fought golovkin his shit would be pushed in
     
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    Like it was when he fought your boy Bute?

    MTF
     
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    you talking about a guy golovkin KOd a decade ago?
     

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