Was Hector Camacho Elite?

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Was Hector Camacho Elite

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  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

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    I think this question is more of a debate than the Tito one.
     
    Anthony, Jul 18, 2015
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  2. Xplosive

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    In his 130-135 prime, yes. Very much so.
     
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  3. Double L

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    The camacho that came out in a space suit and did a 360 spin during his walk-out was most certainly not elite.
     
    Double L, Jul 18, 2015
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  4. cdogg187

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    Elite to me means championship level so yes
     
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  5. Anthony

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    What do you mean by Championship level? Anyone who held the belt?
     
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  6. Neil

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    Camacho who beat louis loy and had roaches crawling across his kitchen in his Harlem apt was elite
     
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  7. Irish

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    Neil how could you worship a minority who had no money. :dunno:
     
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    Huhh? You gotta be kidding me.

    That would make the Andre Berto's, and William Joppy's of the world "elite". Which they sure as Hell were not.
     
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  9. Irish

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    "E-Lyte" has now been extended to fighters like Chris Arreola.
    It has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with money and ticket sales.
    It is now being retrospectively applied.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Current fighters who are truly elite include: Floyd, GGG, Ward, Rigo, Loma, R.Gonzalez, Kov, Crawford, Cotto, borderline Canelo (a win over Cotto will solidify him as elite).
     
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  11. cdogg187

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    yes when the belts still meant something
     
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    point is, you fucking wankers, "elite" is open to interpretation

    How many boxers are there in the world at a given time? tens of thousands?

    If you're one of the best 100, is that elite? Is it 50? 10?

    There's no real answer, you fucking faggots
     
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  13. Anthony

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    Buster Douglas, Hasim Rachman ?

    Not criticizing, just asking.
     
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  14. Dog Jones

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    The Camacho that grinded the security guard during his disco gladiator entrance was elite
     
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  15. Irish

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    Just what GGG, Kovalev, Canelo and Loma have done to warrant getting mentioned as "Elite" over Klitschko is beyond me.

    Fucking hell...........does fighting everyone and losing three times {the last of them 11 years ago} count for LESS than fighting nobodies and ancient bodies and never losing :dunno:

    In October Klitschko is facing into his umpeteenth title defence against another guy who has not lost at the weight.

    Of course, it does alluded to Cloggs point...."Elite" is like "PfP"....it's eye of the beholder.
     
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  16. Irish

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    Bob Velin, USA Today :

    "Chris Arreola KO 9 Bermane Stiverne: Bermane Stiverne has never really fought an elite fighter except perhaps for Chris Arreola. And granted, he beat him once but I don't see it happening again.

    Arreola knows a loss here would be devastating for his career, which he has taken much more seriously of late. He wants that title badly. Both fighters have knockout power.

    But Stiverne has been inactive for the last year — not that Arreola has spent that much time in the ring with less than one round vs. Seth Mitchell — and could be a bit rusty. But it seems this is a different Arreola, a more serious Arreola and if so, he will take care of Bermane late."
     
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    Fairyola must be elite. This one of Dr iron shoulders signature victories
     
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    Really? Base on WHAT??? Loma has 3-4 fight and has face better opponents than GGG.....


    HOW THE FUCK Is GGG elite.....
     
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    He's knocked the head off as many blacks as your momma did back during her Ho She Min $5 Trail glory days.
     
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    Camacho @ 130 was Definitely Elite, but that Status Decreased as his Weight Increased...




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    classic HBO interview then they go outside ( I believe it was Tompkins) to checkout out Machos caddy and that crackhead bitch starts yelling at camacho she would whoop his fukin ass :laugh11:
     
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    The camacho who fought at MSG when they used the white canvas was as good as anybody could ever dream of being
     
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    So John Ruiz was elite?
     
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    At 130-135 I would say yes, definitely.

    Never cared for his antics, though.
     
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    Elite is a top 5 P4P fighter in his era...and potential ATG. Y'all may be using the term elite too flippantly
     
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    I didn't omit Wald Pussy intentionally.

    I usually just forget he even exists.
     
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    Until there's an actual tangible definition of "elite", all discussion is pointless
     
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  28. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Come on bro...we all know what "Elite" means. "The cream of the crop"...so to speak.
     
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    Cream of the crop inside one division, or cream of the crop of all boxing at the moment, or cream of the crop of the whole generation, or cream of the crop in all times?

    This is why I created the other thread which you criticized. We have to define 'elite' first before judging which fighters are elite. Thus, I totally agree wit cdogg here.

    Without definition, this is like asking if Camacho was an excellent boxer or an ingenious boxer. It is a debate of semantics, not of boxing
     
    Ugotabe Kidding, Jul 19, 2015
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    It's not just the best 5 fighters, for fucks sake. GGG might not be the best in terms of accomplishments, but he sure as hell has elite abilities in the ring.
     
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