What was the single best Heavyweight achievement in history?

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  1. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Ali KO 8 Foreman?
    Louis KO 1 Schmeling?
    Foreman KO 10 Moorer?
    Ali W15 Spinks?
    Holyfield TKO 11 Tyson?
    Braddock W15 Baer?
    Other?
     
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    Hard to Top Louis KO1 Schmeling, Given the CLIMATE of that Time...






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    Ali beating foreman
     
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    EASILY Ali-Foreman. EASILY. Given the magnitude of the fight, the overwhelming odds against Ali, the fact that he regained the title (something nobody ever thought he'd do), the way he took George apart then dropped him, it doesn't get any better or more meaningful.
     
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    Douglas-Tyson, given the fact that the odds were so heavily stacked against Douglas and the fact that he had lost his mother. Yes, Tyson wasn't 100% right, but it was an unbelievable performance and achievement from Douglas.
     
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  9. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    Id also go with Douglas KO10 Tyson.

    Tyson was far and away seen as most destructive and invincible boxer at the time...whatever ´issues´ were going on.
     
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    The climate definitely means a lot. But given that Louis wasn't the huge underdog Ali was, and given that Schmeling couldn't carry Foreman's jock, I can't place it as a bigger achievement than Ali-Foreman.
     
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    When Deontay Wilder beat up Charlie Zelenoff.
     
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    Tyson/Douglas for sure
     
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    I think that the only two contedners are Ali-Foreman and Douglas-Tyson. Hard to pick a winner among these two.
     
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    Douglas-Tyson wins because Ali cheeted against Foreman by lose ropes
     
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    No love for Jack Johnson defeating Tommy Burns in 1908 to become the first black man to win the Heavyweight Championship?
     
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    It's huge historically, but as a boxing match, everybody knew Johnson would beat him any way he chose, total mismatch
     
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    The thing is about Ali beating Foreman was a) Ali's age and b) Foreman's destructiveness.
    If we look who that destructiveness had been dished-out to (a whole host of cans, and Frazier & Norton), it becomes less of an amazing victory...that is, everyone saw a Foreman victory purely because he'd swept aside the two git's that gave Ali most trouble.
    Flawed logic.


    The Douglas victory tops this because a) Douglas' anoniminty and b) Tyson's 3+ years of destruction of everyone in the heavyweight division
     
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    When RJJ beat Ruiz.
     
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    Ruiz being the worst heavyweight evahhhh...
     
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    Yeah, I remember being there at the time and everyone said that....

    Massively significant.
     
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    yes, there are no contemporary accounts... it's like Stonehenge :Crap:
     
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    REED Isn't Sure Who was Favored in the RE, but Schmeling KO'ed Louis in their 1st Bout...

    Given That, Schmeling's Alleged Association w/Adolph Hitler, World War I, and the Fact Joe Louis Became THE 1st Universally EMBRACED Black American Athlete, and REED Thinks it's Pretty HARD to Top...







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    Johnson KO15 Jeffries deserves a shout historically. Irish still hasn't got over it
     
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    tbf tho arent we talking sporting accomplishments rather than cultural significance?
     
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    Jefferies was 102 years old
     
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    Not only was there no association, but Hitler tried to have him killed in Greece in 1941.
     
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    Jeffries did very well, he was an old alcoholic and still gave a very good account.

    Jeffries was probably the only half-live guy Johnson fought.
     
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    Apparently jefferies could run 100m in well under 11s at 220lb. Pretty bad boy
     
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    Plus I don't think he was the underdog even though he lost the first fight...
     
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