Best of Puerto Rico by Category

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Rank the best PR fighters of all time by category.

    I'd say:

    Most complete - Ortiz

    Best Boxer - Benitez

    Best Puncher - Trinidad (Rosario a very close second)

    Best Boxer-Puncher - Gomez

    Fastest - Camacho

    Best chin - Juan Laporte

    Best defense - Benitez

    Smartest - Ortiz

    Most talented Overall - Benitez or Gomez

    BEST - Ortiz


    What say you?
     
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    Terrible topic and terrible categories to start it.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    My bad. I'll make sure my next thread is "Best of Grand Rapids by Category"
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    That's better. Much easier to answer and to the point.


    Seriously though, here's my criticism:

    For, example, you have these three categories:

    BEST
    Most Complete
    Most Talented Overall

    What the fuck is the difference between those three?
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    What's the functional difference between Smartest and Best Boxer?

    Seems like you're pulling categories out of your ass. next time don't take shortcuts and rush a topic, take time to think it through properly. Just some advice. ;)
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Most complete- Ortiz

    Best boxer- Benitez

    Best puncher-Trinidad and Gomez

    Best boxer-puncher- Gomez

    Fastest-Camacho

    Best chin- Laporte or Camacho.

    Best defense- Benitez for sure.

    Smartest- Benitez and Ortiz

    Most talented- Benitez

    Underrated- DeJesus

    Best- Ortiz
     
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    Orlando Cruz blows them all away.
     
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    We know he's ur favorite....him n Emile Griffith. Cruz is soo soo brave...
     
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    The best of Puerto Rico Juan Manuel Lopez fights the great Wilfredo Vazquez in 30 minutes
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This fight isn't too bad
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Juan Ma Lopez is back and fought Vazquez's trainer after stopping him
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. officially retires due to (rumored) detached retina
     
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    The trainer rocked Jml Lol
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Juanma didn't look good, though.

    Slower than ever and pushing his punches. On the plus side, he did appear to be in very good shape but he can't compete for a title.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'd never call DeJesus underrated. Most people actually overrate him because of his victory over Duran. I've heard quite a few person saying that if it wasn'T for Duran he would have been a legend, yet, the rest of his career doesn'T really point toward him being that good.
     
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    Only two guys beat DeJesus in his prime - Duran & Cervantes. Cervantes was simply too damn big for him, as DeJesus had no business at 140. He was dominant at 135 minus the two Duran losses.

    I wouldn't pick DeJesus over the very best of all time at lightweight, but I'd pick him over guys like Rosario and Camacho.

    I think he belongs in the HOF. Much lesser guys than DeJesus are in the HOF.
     
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    DeJesus was tremendous
     
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    Steven was certainly hof worthy. He'd whup these guys today
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Yeah, I certainly wouldn't give fuckin Terry Flanaghan, Robert Easter, and Jorge Linares much of a chance against DeJesus.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    HOF is all political.

    Somebody really would have to explain to me how Barry McGugian is more deserving of the Hall than DeJesus.

    Four guys who I think are deserving of the HOF, but have yet to make it: Curry, Rodrigo Valdez, DeJesus, and Julian Jackson.

    I think Corrales deserves in as well. If you put that fuckin scrub Gatti in for being "exciting", then why exclude Corrales? He was even more exciting than Gatti, and several levels better.
     
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    You sound like Trump! lol

    Every single Duran, Leonard, Hearns or Hagler opponent is deemed as tremendous, if they have a victory over the said Fab 4 fighter.

    If Esteban were fighting in the 2000s, Mayweather and Pacquiao would have taken turns in whupping DeJesus' ass!
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Mayweather beats DeJesus but it's competitive.

    But DeJesus counters the shit out of Pacman for 12 rounds and schools him.
     
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    The HOF has absolutely no credibility. I stopped caring about it a long time ago
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Leave it to Sly to turn a topic about DeJesus into a Floyd/Pac discussion.

    In Sly's mind, no fighter pre-90s had skill.

    DeJesus would have been a very difficult fighter for both Floyd and Pac at 135.

    And Cervantes IMO beats both at 140.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Well, as I said before, if you do the time you may as well do the crime. So I'll inject Floyd/Pac into any discussion as i see fit.

    Floyd beats everyone at 135/140lbs. Pac beats most.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    :atu::atu::laughing:

    You'd have grounds to stand on if you'd actually viewed fights of these guys. But the truth is, and you can't even deny it, you haven't.

    You know nothing about an Ike Williams, or a Joe Brown, or a Carlos Ortiz, or an Ismael Laguna, or a Cervantes. You just assume Floyd is some unbeatable God like a MAINSTREAM fan would.

    You're a boxing fan second, and not a hardcore one.... you're a Floyd groupie first and foremost.

    Whereas some of us (myself included) are students and fans of the SPORT in general more than any fighter in particular.
     

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