Golden Boy offering GGG $15 million and the full 160 lbs to fight Canelo

$15 mil AND No Catchweight, Is MORE than Fair...




REED:baa:

 

Id rather get 33% of the proceeds than a flat 15 million if i were golovkins camp. its a huge fight

 

It's Not about What he'd "Rather" Have, it's about FINALLY Landing that Huge Fight...

15mil is 3x MORE than GGG's Ever Made and he's the Clear B-Side of this Equation...It's Called Gambling on YOURSELF...Take "Short Money" (if You Can Even Refer to 15mil as Such) in This Instance and NEVER Look Back...If GGG Wins, Which he'll Be FAVORED to Do, he'd Never Be on the Ass End of a Negotiation Again...

As Loooooooooooooooooong as Golden Boy Isn't Capping GGG's Take in the Event of a RE, he Should Jump On this Offer...If he Doesn't Take it, it's his OWNfuckingFAULT...

He's Got the Opponent he Wants @ the Weight he Wants...Make the Fucking Fight, Already...




REED:mj:

 

YUP...100%...if GGG doesn't accept he is a straight up bitch.

Only eeason not to accept is if like u said..G is trying to fuck with his rematch money...

maybe G is trying to make this fight for May knowing ggg has Jacobs on schedule...Fuk it GGG wil make short work of Jacobs. N get in Ginger ass in 5 De Mayo...

 

15 million at 160???

No excuse to not make the fight if this offer is true.

NONE.

 

2/3 of the take would end up being a whole helluva lot more than alvarez has ever made also. It's a negotiation. I'm guessing golovkins team won't take a flat fee of any sort

We will see how this pay per view with jacobs sells. If it does poorly then maybe they'll have no choice but to be bent over and accept whatever is offered

As for a rematch ::

Ain't gonna be no rematch after this ass whipping so any talk about finances on that end don't mean shit

Id rather take 20% than a flat fee of 15 million

 

Not Sure WHY You Repeatedly Laugh @ the Notion of a RE When Practically EVERY Big Fight Has Terms for an Immediate RE Built into the Language of the Original Contract...

Whether Guys are Interested in a RE or Not, There's Almost Always a Clause for One, on Behalf of One or Both Fighters...Surely, You're Aware of This STANDARD Practice???...

Which Brings Us Back to Square One...As Loooooooong as Golden Boy ISN'T Placing Limits on How Much GGG Could Earn for a RE, 15mil and No Catchweight is MORE than Fair...Golovkin is the One who NEEDS the Fight, and he Doesn't Have a Successful Track Record for Being the A-Side of a Promotion...

Not Even Your Highly Coveted MSG Merchandising Record Means Shit in a Canelo Superfight Negotation...







REED

 

If it looks like the only way he'll get the Fight then take the 15 million. But this is a negotiation. The fight ain't until September at the earliest.

This is a super fight. A huge huge event. There will be heavy coverage on ESPN for the entire week of the Fight.

Boxing is starved for such events so they'll milk it. Do you disagree and think I'm overestimating the magnitude here?

Cuz if not tell me the last time one of the participants of such an event took a flat fee?

 

Naturally Golovkin's team should try to negotiate for better and deservedly so, however if Golden Boy won't budge he should take the fight.

 

Golovkin will be concentrating on his next fight. You know, the one in March vs a more dangerous foe than Alvarez. so this talk doesn't really matter right now.

Say golovkin vs jacobs does 300k ppv buys, should he still take this flat fee offer?

 

Again, they should negotiate for better but if they can't get more take what's available. When he dispatches Canelo nobody out there will be able to lowball him.

 

the prospects look slim for another comparable payday, though. Im all for golovkin accepting whatever is offered so i can make some money on a wager. fight the motherfucker for free. but loeffler is not an idiot. he has done a great job promoting his guy to the point that they bring something to the table. taking a flat fee is foolish and the only idiot who has done so for a super fight in recent memory was delahoya vs trinidad.

 

1st of All, Yes, You're Slightly OVERRATING this, as an Event...As a FIGHT, it's THE Bout to Be Made in All of Boxing, but the Magnitude of the Event Itself Remains to Be Seen...

Typically, "EVENT" Level Prizefights Features Guys Who've BOTH Been in BIG Fights, Previously...In that Regard, GGG is NEW to All of This...

Golovkin Will Be 35, and Popping his Big Fight "Cherry", for the Very 1st Time...As Such, a Flat Fee that's 3x MORE than he's EVER Made, @ the Weight he Wants, is MORE than Fair...

It Boils Down to Who NEEDS the Fight More, the Answer to Which is OBVIOUS...





REED:hammert:

 

This is all just negotiation posturing from both sides.

The fight will happen in September. Money talks. Neither one can make nearly as much fighting another opponent. Not even Canelo... don't overrate his star power.

Alvarez isn't some Tyson, DLH level MEGASTAR. He needs Triple G as well. They'll come to terms though.

 

The answer is obvious.... they both do. Canelo will be called a pussy by Mexican fans forever if he don't fight Golov.

Mexican fans are NOT stupid. They know this Ginger isn't proving a goddamn thing by knocking out Khan and Smith. They're also smart enough to know that Cotto had seen better days, and spent his prime at 147.

 

Compared to Canelo, GGG Brings Very Little to the Table, Neil...Don't Get it Twisted...

Make No Mistake, Canelo Alvarez is the Attraction Here...If the Fight Registers w/the Mainstream it's BECAUSE of Canelo Alvarez, Unquestionably...

And if the Reported Terms are Accurate, GGG Will Have HIMSELF to Blame for Never Landing that Big Fight, and HBO Would Have to Reinvent Him, Because the "Nobody Will Fight Him" Angle will Have Been Exposed for What it Is....

Bullshit...






REED

 

Canelo Doesn't NEED the Fight Anywhere Close to as BADLY as GGG Does...Even Ray Charles Could See That...

Canelo's in his Mid 20's and This Would Be his 3rd BIG Fight, Whereas GGG is Mid 30's and Has a Grand Total of 0. Clearly, Golovkin NEEDS it More...

You're Right, Mexican Fans ARE Smart, but Sooooo is Golden Boy, which is Why They've Made their Offer Public. No Catchweights, and 3x More than GGG's EVER Made...Mexican Fight Fans Will See this as a FAIR Offer and Rightfully Blame GGG if it Never Happens....




REED

 

THIS...

Shut Up and Take the Fight, a Fight MOST Think You'll Win w/Out Much Fuss...Gamble On Yourself and Become the NEW Cash Cow of Boxing...





REED:hammert:

 

I would agree at this point. If GB absolutely refuses to budge, take the 15 mil and give this Ginger the ass whuppin he needs.

I have a feeling that's what he's gonna have to do... GGG-Jacobs will be a PPV dud.

 

Yep. Of course he wants a big payday as he probably doesn't have a lot of years left in the sport at his age but that doesn't work in his favor because Canelo is way younger. If GGG would lose or even look shit in his next fight team Canyellow will be praising the heavens.

 

I say this fight does a minimum of 2 million ppv buys at $80 a pop

That is an 80 million dollar pot alone right there. A 20 million dollar site fee, international TV dollars, closed circuit, etc

The pot is easily over 100 million. That means 85+ for alvarez

 

Neil, you're overrating the FUCK outta this fight! Not sure if you're even serious.

It ain't doing no 2 million PPV buys bruh. No way in Hell.

They should be ELATED if it breaks 1 mil.

I'm predicting somewhere between 850-950k.

 

i say it does 2 million + ppv buys

 

Neil Acts VERY Strange when it Comes to Golovkin and his Worth as a "Draw"...Dude LITERALLY Noted GGG Setting an "MSG Merchandising" Record as Some Sort of FEATHER in his Cap...

Nevermind the "Reasonably Priced" MSG Tickets, Which Played the LARGEST Role in them Selling the Joint Out...Dude Sold 200,000 PPV's vs. Lemieux in his ONLY Outing as a Headliner...

REED's w/You, Neil is Overrating THE FUCK Out of this Fights Drawing Power...

Hell, Canelo vs Cotto "Only" Did 900,000 Buys...if, If, IF Canelo-GGG Even Does THAT Well (Which is DEBATEABLE @ This Point), it WON'T Be By Much...Only 3 Fights in the HISTORY of the Sport have Done 2 Million Buys (Floyd-Pac, Floyd-Canelo and Floyd-DeLa)...

Canelo-GGG Won't Even Approach That...1 Mil @ BEST...






REED:hammert:

 

There's NATHAN to Base This On, Aside from Your OVERinflated Sense of GGG's Worth...






REED:mut:

 

its based on what i project the interest in the fight to be. not the worth of Golovkin or even of Alvarez, but rather the worth of the matchup and its mainstream appeal. the coverage it will receive, and the complete lack of big fights/events.

its a prediction, just like yours and his. we will see.

 

If Canelo's "Mainstream" by American Standards, he's Barely on the FRINGES of It (and That's Because he's Faced Floyd, Cotto and is Promoted by Oscar dela Hoya, Above All Else)...Canelo Could HELP His Case by Learning English, but He Doesn't Seem Interested in Doing That...

In the Other Corner, GGG Speaks VERY Broken English...

For a Bout to RESONATE w/the Mainstream, BOTH Fighters have to SELL the Fight OR Have Built-In Appeal...Canelo Possesses That, GGG Doesn't...

In the End, we'll Get Our Answer, but 2mil Seems Like Some Pie-In-The-Sky Shit, @ This Point...1mil Would be GREAT...REED Thinks 750-900,000 is More Realistic...





REED:hammert:

 

I hate this part of the sport but haven't some fights in the past been negotiated where the one side gets a portion of the PPV/totals sales over a certain amount?