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  1. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Under the rules, it is possible to rule a straight DQ for one foul without no warnings, if the foul is bad enough. Which such instances do you remember?

    I only remember one, where a guy got beat for seven rounds, then in the last round jumped head-first to his opponents legs and tackled him. You could assume biting was such foul, but as we have seen, even two bites might not end things.


    How long, approximately, has been the longest count you have witnessed? In the rules of the major organizations there actually is no mention of how long the 'count of ten' is supposed to take, though Id think most agree it is ten seconds.

    Also, last weekend I was calling a fight where one guy faked to butt his opponent, yet never did. The ref said nothing. Is it allowed to fake a foul, if you are not actually throwing one? Does anyone know?
     
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    I'll have to think about the second question, but the answer to question one is yes and look further than Jones-Griffin 1.
     
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    Damn, of course. There have been several cases when hitting while the other guy is down has caused a DQ, for some reason I couldn't think of them. Good catch

    Have you or anyone seen straight DQs for other reason?
     
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    Honestly, no. I think hitting guy on the ground in the quickest way to get DQ'd with no prior warning.

    And theoretically, if you were hit a guy CLEARLY after the bell when the ref has tried to break you, and it results in the opponent being KO'd/unable to continue, that would almost certainly result in an immediate DQ.
     
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  6. Wiser 1878

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    Samuel Peter was once warned for punching with both hands at once (against Toney.) I didn't know that was against the rules before that.
     
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    Yeah, that's a weird rule.

    I guess the reason is to prevent slamming both ears simultaneously, since that might cause fatal damage. Throwing body hooks with both hands would probably hurt the hitter more than the opponent.

    One odd rule is that you can't hold a rope with one hand and box with the other. Larry Holmes used to do that a lot and got cautioned
     
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    If it wasn't such a huge fight Tyson surely would have been dq'd against Evander for the bite. I think Lane pretended he didn't see it as he didn't want to stop the fight. After the second and blood dripping from it he had no choice.
     
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    Pac got a warning for it against somebody too.
     
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    Lane wanted to DQ tyson after the first bite but was over ruled by that creep Ratner
     
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    I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind it but it could have something to do with balancing yourself with an outside aid.
     
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    Tyson Buster Douglas round 8 was a long ass count and even then Buster got up at 9 and 3/4 seconds. I've never forgiven Octavio Meyhran(sp?) for that. Buster should have been counted out and Tyson would have had the best comeback one punch KO in history
     
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    It was the magnitude of the event. If Evander was in a routine title defense against a non star no way anybody would have let it go on.
     
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    Word.
     
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    By the way...very few people have noticed this...in any event I've never heard anyone even bring it up...but the ten count administered to Nigel Benn when he was knocked out by Michael Watson was the quickest that I've ever seen. That motherfucker was like 5 seconds! Poor Benn didn't have a chance to beat it lol
     
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    Imagine if it happened in the Pac-Floyd fight. The ref would have done something to appear he was distracted and didn't witness it like it was a pro wrestling match. Even with the ugliest of fouls they would let it go on praying it didn't happen again.
     
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    of course not but if it were completely up to Lane it would have been over after the initial foul
     
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    No doubt. The magnitude of an event plays a role in the officiating.
     
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    I think letting it continue was the right thing to do. Too much money too much at stake too many viewers around the world to stop that fight after one foul.
     
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    I can't think of the guy's name right now which is pissing me off but the guy who beat Lomachenko by decision. Didn't he get DQd on some BS call saying his opponent was down but the guy took a knee as he was being hit.
     
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    totally wrong

    He BIT OFF A PIECE OF THE GUY

    Fight should have ended that instant
     
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    If Evander wanted it ended there and then...only then I would agree with you. But since that wasn't the case....fight on!!
     
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    Best DQ ever was Lewis vs Akinwande. That shit should be punished more frequently.
     
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    That sound like some kind of dumb urban legend that kids tells each others
     
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    I think your mistaken it for HumbertoSoto vs Francisco Lorenzo
     
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    Yes. That's right!
     
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    Good point. Even though it doesn't really help in this situation, it probably needs to be forbidden alltogether
     
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    Another VAGUE, SUBJECTIVE Rule is the Degree to Which a Fighter Can MEASURE, ie., Leave an Arm Extended, without Actually THROWING a Punch...

    Larry Holmes Did This, Most Notably (Ali Did it Occasionally Too)....Particularly when he was Trying to Finish a Guy...Homes Back a Guy to the Ropes, Measure w/the Left (Sometimes TOUCHING the Opponent Slightly), then Fire the Right...Maybe the Ref Knocks Holmes' Measuring Arm Away, Maybe he Doesn't...

    Over the Years, Refs Seem to Tolerate this LESS...

    Roy Jones Wasn't as STRAIGHT w/his Measuring Arm and he Never Got Close Enough to Touch the Guy w/It, but he Would Leave his Left Out There Pretty Faaaaaar and WIDE...Almost Like a Karate or Muay Thai Pose...And Roy was Sooooooo QUICK of Hand, he COUNTERED Quite a Few Guys w/the High, Extended (Though Not Quite MEASURING) Left Hand...

    Can't Recall Refs Admonishing Him Though...





    REED:hammert:
     
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    Wanna POLICE the Mouf' Piece Rule Properly???....

    Make the Guy that Spits it Out Fight the REMAINDER of that Round, Sans Mouf' Piece...

    If a Guy Gets his Mouf' Piece KNOCKED OUT, then Apply the Customary Rule...Pretty Easy to Distinguish btwn SPITTING it Out and Getting it KNOCKEDthefuckOUT...




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    I don't know of this is a rule all over the world but I remember reading it on a British boxing site so it's a rule in Britain for sure.

    If a corner throws in the towel while they're fighter is down (during the count), the win will be scored as a KO and not a TKO.
     

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