Dems show disturbing disregard for science

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  1. Double L

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    Transgender should be OUTLAWED! I mean that seriously. If your mind is telling you that you're a different gender than what your anatomy is telling you....you need a straight jacket.
     
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    In some liberal countries AND California you can be arrested for saying that.
     
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    The world has gone mad.

    A man thinking that he's a women trapped in a man's body is the very definition of insanity.
     
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    All of a sudden you cunts are worried about "science"? That's fucking rich.

    Sam Clovis says hello.
     
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    Kathleen Hartnett White ... the right winger's idea of "regard for science"

    Despicable imbeciles
     
  9. Double L

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    Nice try you 77 percenter science denier.
     
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    At least she's a scientist.

    Oh wait.
     
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    I hate that meme ... it just sucks so hard ... what the fuck is that even from
     
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    Sad that it needs said, but it does.
     
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    What? I'm talking about that meme, that picture ... its fucking lame
     
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    The meme includes words
     
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    No, the meme is the photo. That picture is posted on social media roughly 500000 times per day with 500000 different snarky messages

    I just hate it, sick of seeing it
     
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    The people in that study are not talking about sexes but genders. Defining gender is not a scientific fact.

    Apart from this, great point
     
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    The guy pictured is Reece Simpson, a.k.a. Roll Safe, a character created by the British filmmaker and actor Kayode Ewumi. He’s the protagonist of #HoodDocumentary, a parody of urban-culture documentaries.
     
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    How is gender not a scientific fact? In fact, how is gender different than sex? Do the two words not mean the same thing?
     
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    No. Sex, which is defined by chromosomes, is a scientific fact.

    Gender is a social construction, such as 'this is men's profession'. The question here is, can a person be a woman (sex) yet feel that she has socially more in common with men than women
     
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    Gender is now a social construct? Really?
     
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    Oh please. It's so ridiculous. You are also confusing Gender with Gender Role. Nature vs. Nurture. Confusing social anthropology with biological anthropology. Nothing but Kinsey study bullshit.
     
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    Much of it, yes.

    The fact that we have different bathrooms for men and women is NOT a biological necessity, it is a construction of this culture.

    The fact that women get paid less is not a law of nature either.

    Questions such as these (equality, cultural values etc) are about genders, sex has very little to do with these
     
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    But none of that stuff defines gender. If I use a woman's bathroom and get paid less, I do not become a woman.
     
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    So you are not even trying to understand the difference between sex and gender, even though your original article is all about that?
     
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    Ugo, I'm pretty certain Double L perfectly understands what you mean, it's just that in the conservative frame of mind, the consequences related to gender differences, which you attribute to the social construct named gender, is simply a corrollary of the essential attributes that comes with the biological sex. So in short, it is not because we follow imaginary rules (i.e. social constructs), that we, as societies, have attributed particular roles according to sex but because nature gave us different strength and weaknesses. Therefore, all of this gender as social construct discussion is nonsense because we can't go against laws of nature.

    I believe that's pretty much the source of this disagreement between liberals and conservatives on this issue.
     
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    But the thing is, most of this is not law of nature, it is about how we view things in each culture. Questions like should women work or not are cultural, not scientific, even if we do consider that women are weaker for physical work.

    Or, the fact that we let sex decide who is a good nurse or not, is more of a cultural thing. Even if we acknowledge that women have in general more compassion, it is not a rule of nature that men usually don't become nurses, it is a rule of gender that can change.

    Double is pretty much arguing that you can't grow a dick even if you wanted to, and nobody even in this study says otherwise
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing conservatives are right on this issue, I'm merely exposing their viewpoint as I understand it.
     
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