Gennady Golovkin vs. Canelo Álvarez: Sept 16 2017 - Official thread

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  1. Xplosive

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    Canelo's drawing power won't be affected when he loses to Golov.
     
  2. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    To be honest I'm more amped for this now I've re-focused on it!

    Just can't pick a winner...
     
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    It depends on the manner of his defeat.

    He won't lose though...it's Canelo time now
     
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    Harder to get super hyped for a fight when neither boxer speaks a lick of English. You need personality and theatrics to sell an event. That's why May/Mac thread has several thousand more views/posts than this thread.
     
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    That's not the issue (the language barrier)...it's because the May-McG is an EVENT and not merely just a boxing match.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Even a one sided loss wouldn't hurt. Canelo can always go back to 154 and have a tone of marketable fights down there.

    Triple G would be done if he loses, though.
     
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    But if May/Mac both didn't speak english and if they both weren't such outspoken personalities, it wouldn't be anything close to as big as it is.
     
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    Jesus Christ, this shit has to stop in boxing.

    NEITHER fighter is "done" if they lose.

    Both will still remian top 5 draws in the sport.

    However, win OR lose, Golov will probably retire in about 2-3 more years IMO. Maybe even sooner than that.
     
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    I think that you are not taking into account how much damage Canelo will be inflicting on GGG.
     
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    I'm not taking it into account because Golov is gonna fuck Canelo up.
     
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    We shall see. Canelo seems to have a dependable chin and he's no where near as easy to hit as say a Lemieux. He uses the ring well and has fast hard punches. Difficult guy to just walk down and destroy.
     
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    Golovkin is going to beat the fuck out of Canelo. Amazed at the Canelo picks. It won't be dissimilar to the Brook fight.

    Canelo will get off to a good start, use his handspeed and accuracy to outscore Golovkin for the first 4 rounds or so. But slowly and surely Golovkin will increase his pressure, get more comfortable, start landing harder shots and just walk Canelo down and beat the crap out of him. Canelo doesn't have the size, range, chin, or stamina to keep Golovkin from doing this.

    Oh and people rag on Gennady's level of competition, but to prepare him for a beast like Gennady, Canelo just fought Khan, Liam fucking Smith, and a walking punchbag in Chavez Jr. Meanwhile Golovkin fought Brook and Jacobs back to back. Brook would give Canelo a good fight, and I think Jacobs would actually beat him.

    Golovkin TKO 9.
     
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    I like this analysis and prediction - it just 'sounds' right.
    I've got no allegiance to either guy but I like Golovkin's style of boxing better...
     
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    I like GGG in this very much. He strugglees with movement only and I don't see Canelo move enough lateral pace. He's like a bigger, white Mexican Lehlo Ledwaba really.

    I also don't see Canelo as good or hit hard enough. Interesting too is that he is infinrtabek with pressure. Ergo, GGG just wrong man for this kid.

    Good fight, but not close close I think.
     
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    This is what I love about real fights as opposed to mythical matchups....we can see after he fact who actually knows what they're talking about. You're wrong. This a 50-50 fight at best, worst case scenario Canelo wins
     
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    GGG is a better overall middleweight than Canelo, no doubt, but that wouldn't necessarily translate into a victory.

    GGG is getting older now and Canelo is in his prime. Canelo has the perfect combination of chin, defense, handspeed and power to be the foil for GGGs style.
     
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    Velbov knows the score.
     
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    Who are the best opponents / hardest punchers Golovkin and Canelo have faced?
     
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    Can't wait for this fight! That promo was excellent.
     
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    For Golov, the hardest puncher he's faced is either LeMoo or Jacobs. Both those guys have bigger one shot power than Canelo. His best opponent has definitely been Jacobs.

    For Canelo... well, we all know that Floyd is the best guy he's ever faced. If you're asking who's the best guy Canelo has beaten, it's Cotto. Notice I didn't say Lara, since I consider that a Canelo loss.

    Canelo's never really faced a "big" puncher IMO. Golov is gonna be by FAARRRR the hardest hitter he's ever faced, while the revese is not true.
     
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    I see Golovkin-Canelo playing out similar to Golovkin-Lemiux but more competitive.
     
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    GGG definitely has the experience advantage going into this one. As you've said, he's faced harder punchers than Canelo before. Canelo cannot say the same. Canelo, however has faced better fighters on average than GGG has ( Mayweather, Lara, Trout, Cotto) so he may have a better ability to adapt mid fight. My only question is whether or not Canelo can deal with the jab. Now....I will admit, that Canelo cannot afford too many lulls in action where he just sits on the ropes and allows the opponent to hit him....against GGG that'll be suicide. Canelo can rest from punching in this fight from time to time but he can't rest from moving
     
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    Shouldn't the two Canelo-Golov threads be merged at this point?
     
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    Canelo's not really an adaptive fighter, that much is already apparent. He just is what he is.

    He definitely couldn't adapt when Lara was outboxing him. He "won" because Lara completely blew it by running late.

    If what he wants to do against Golov doesn't work, he's gonna be fucked.
     
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    Nah, mine's better, just sort of let this one slide :D
     
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    I agree that yours is better. They should all be merged into your thread.
     
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    GGG could lose and still fight on for a couple more years, but I think a loss to Canelo would really hit him hard as this is the fight he's been waiting for for so long. I could see him retiring if he was to lose. This is basically the fight that his career is depending on, to cement his legacy. Who else can he fight at 160 that will be as big or important as this one? And he's not moving up to 168 now.
     
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    How does GGG look after losing 4 rounds to somebody as strong and as heavy-handed as Canelo, considering how uncomposed he was at times vs Brook and Jacobs.

    I do agree, Jacobs is better than anyone than Canelo has recently beaten, but taking your own narrative into account, how does GGG look after 4 rounds of losing to Canelo.......
     
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    I agree with Irish. It's not good for Golov to get off to a slow start in this fight. Not only does it allow Canelo to build points, it also allows Canelo to build confidence.

    Golov has to quickly establish that jab, and put hurt on Canelo early, so that maybe he'll go into his shell for the rest of the fight.
     

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