How to defend against the lunge and punch....

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  1. Double L

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    PBF has a technique he employed all night long against Mosley, and that he's used extensively in the past as well. It involves leaping into his opponent, leaning on him, and then hitting him when he attempts to shake free from PBF's weight.

    Mosley dealt with it reasonably well, not allowing PBF to get his arms over Mosley's head and push down on his back. Instead, Mosley was careful to keep his head up, loop his arms under PBF's, and wait for the ref.

    However, it allowed PBF to control the pace of the fight for nearly every round, and Mosley was unable to find any sort of rhythm.

    PBF is particularly effective using this technique when he has a height advantage, like he did against JMM, and like he would against Pacquiao.

    PBF also used this technique in the first Castillo fight to score 3 unanswered right-hand leads.

    It seems like a fighter under this kind of attack would want to catch PBF during his leap with something big. However, PBF's hands are up when he leaps, ready to push down on his opponents back (whose instinct is to duck).

    Other than a jab, which makes PBF think twice about when he can orchestrate his leap (and which Mosley didn't really use until the last round), what other approaches can a fighter take to not only neutralize this amateur technique, but also capitalize on it?

    Also, why have so many fighters abandoned their jabs against PBF? Who has he fought who has a good jab? Why did they abandon it? Did Castillo abandon his jab?

    And don't say because PBF is so good at countering it. ODH when he doubled up his jab didn't get countered once over it.
     
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    one thing i noticed was the amount of times mayweather would push mosley down towards the canvas. i think he even got warned about it by the ref.

    i also noticed lewis used the same tacking against tyson.

    maybe they do it to tire out the other guys legs, because it seems to work.
     
  3. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    If Floyd tries that lunge and punch against Shane, Mosley would time him coming in and counter with a left hook to the body to set up and right hand over the top. He'd hit Floyd with that all night long


    - Muzse (if they hadn't already fought)
     
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  4. Barristan

    Barristan Undisputed Champion

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    Boxers have been doing that forever...and of course its to take the other guys legs.
     
  5. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    Didn't Ali used to wrap one glove around his opponent's neck and pull them down?
     
  6. Barristan

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    He either out lands them with his own jab, counters over it or frustrates guys who start looking for one big shot. Educated movement could take a jab away too and crowding which is something Floyd does extremely well.
     
  7. Double L

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    PBF uses it not only to tire out his opponent and control the pace, but also to set up offense. He did it a lot against JMM who tried to punch from underneath and appeared as a turtle.
     

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