Ike Quartey vs. a prime Zab Judah

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  1. Dog Jones

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    Quartey takes a few rounds to adjust to Judah's speed and his being a southpaw...

    he then takes that front-running faggot's tiny little heart... Judah runs away for the rest of the fight in a desperate bid to go the distance, so he can hear the one-sided decision in Ike's favor
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Zab would NOT last the distance with a prime Quartey.

    Ike takes him out late. Perhaps even mid.
     
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    agREED. Ike gets him out of there at some point.
     
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    Anyone think Judah is a potential HOF candidate? He was a 140lb title holder, moved up and became the undisputed WBC/WBA/IBF WW champion, and is now again a 140lb belt holder.

    His career best win is probably against Cory Spinks though and he's lost against every top guy he has faced and some very average guys.
     
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    He wouldn't get my vote.
     
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    if the hall of fame were a real thing interested in greatness??? absolutely not

    The hall of fame as it actually exists? yes, he will get in... the institution is a joke
     
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    I love that quote

    say waht you will about Tillis, but the man was certainly quotable:lol:
     
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    Let's pretend that the boxing HOF was more along the lines of the MLB or NFL hall of fame.

    What if Judah were to win against Khan and pick up a 2nd belt at 140 in what is his 2nd run as a champion there?

    He definitely has had his share of mediocre performances, but he's also putting together a respectable list of credentials.
     
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    The MLB hall of fame is as big a joke as the boxing one, truthfully

    The NFL is a bit more stringent, barring a handful of questionable guys

    In an NFL-type institution, I wouldn't vote for Judah in a million years
     
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    Maybe I'm a harder market than most, but I think a true HOF fighter's career should be more than "respectable". I've always felt that if you need to work at building a case for a fighter, then he probably doesn't belong in the HOF.

    Now I know some people subscribe to the "If so-and-so is in, then so-and-so should be in", (and I'm not saying that is what you are doing here) but that doesn't work for me.

    When you look at Judah, do you REALLY see a Hall of Fame fighter?
     
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    The thing with Judah is that he is definitely not what you think of as a HOF kind of fighter, but he is beginning to put up HOF like statistics.

    I'm not even saying I would vote for him. Just think it's an interesting topic as he seems like someone who is becoming a borderline candidate.

    What if he were to beat Khan and then somehow unify the titles against Bradley? Would this earn him consideration? He would then have been the undisputed champion at both 140 and 147.
     
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    I don't think stats make the fighter. When assessing a fighter...I try to look past the stats and put more weight on which fighters the stats were accomplished against.

    At 140, Judah's first title was a vacant one that he won by defeating Jan Bergman. He then made a handful of defense against nothing special opposition before getting stopped in two in a title unification against Tzysu...the first quality fighter Judah had faced at that point in his career.

    Judah fought a few more fights at 140 and then moved up to 147 and lost a title shot to Spinks. He won a few more fights and then won a rematch with Spinks for the 147 lb title. He then somehow managed to lose his title to the mediocre Baldomir and then followed that up with a one sided loss to Floyd Mayweather and a stoppage loss to Cotto.

    He then won a few more fights and then lost a vacant title belt fight to Clottey. He won a few more fights and then won yet another vacant title fight, this one against Kaizer Mabuza. To be honest, I don't know much about Mabuza, but he didn't seem all that deserving of a title fight.

    When I look past the number of titles won, and focus more on the fighters Judah faced and how he did against them, I really don't see a HOF fighter. I see a good fighter who benefitted greatly from the multitude of title belts and vacant titles available in boxing today.
     
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    quartey via stoppage
     
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    He's more deserving than bum ass Gatti. Thats for sure.
     
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    neither of them are deserving, but I do agree with you
     
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    Agreed and disagreed.

    Neither of them are deserving og true HOF status for sure.

    If i had to vote for one or the other though? It's Gatti.
     
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    Not really setting the bar high here...:lol:
     

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