Pac (from 1st jmm fight) vs Hamed (from bungu fight). One sided? Pac was not the multi-dimensional fighter he would later become. Hamed had speed and was a hard hitter.
I was as big a Naz fan as anybody but I always thought Pacquiao would beat the shit out of him. Massive puncher himself with faster hands and better fundamentals and the key thing for me is the workrate, he wouldn't let Naz catch a breather, obviously Hamed could catch him with something coming in but I just don't see it.
Hamed could hurt him with something but I think overall he'd have a torrid time with such a fast southpaw and at these lower weights Pacquaio was a huge hitter himself ... at worst, only a little less hard a one shot puncher as Hamed
Pacquiao would win. Probably via stoppage but Hamed has a legit punchers chance. Manny would give Naz a lot of opportunities to land. Sometimes I think a few people on this forum seem to think Manny was some sort of defensive wiz. He was far from Pernell Whitaker. I think it's a war. Both exchange knockdowns. Both bleed. Both go to war. Manny is bigger, stronger, and faster. Pacquiao KO 6
Hamed was lucky that Hamed faced Barrera before Hamed faced Pacquiao. In other words, had Hamed not faced Barrera and remained undefeated he may have continued fighting long enough to have eventually faced Pacquiao and Pacquiao would have punched him into the ground
Hamed had his first real bigtime test against a guy who wasn´t shot/intimidated or lacking in some major boxing skill (i.e. Power) and we saw what happened. Totally and unequivolcally exposed. At the time he was exciting ooohhhhh! and ahhhhhhh! and KA-BOOM! and but when you look at his record from late 1995 onwards, you can really only pick the following opponnts who were at a ´decent-level´ at 126lb: Tom Johnson Kevin Kelley Cesar Soto He avoided Juan Manual Marquez, Junior Jones, Erik Morales, Freddie Norwood, like the plague and killed himself to stay at 126lb, even though his power should´ve carried up to 130lb, easily. Pacquiao would´ve humiliated Hamed.
I doubt Hamed had the size to compete at 130. All of Mayweather, Corrales, Freitas, and Casamayor were too big and too strong, and would have had no issues dealing with his power.
Barrera was the best guy he ever fought by light years... Why would a fight that occurred after Hamed suffered a humiliating, bubble bursting, ego destroying defeat illustrate ANYTHING? And Sanchez practically died in that fight
There's truth to both claims, MAB was definitely the best guy Hamed had fought, but he had looked utter wank for a long time, the "Little Prince" doc showed us that as well.
The Calvo fight is totally irrelevant He nearly decapitated Sanchez The guy faced the first great fighter of his career and his flaws which were always there were exposed You sound like a Sassenach
The calvo fight isnt irrelevant, the glaring failings of the changes introduced by suarez were screaming out just as loud va that scrub as they were vs Barrera. And the fact his power caught up with chinny ass augie doesn't mean he wasn't looking just as awful before it did as Barrera made him look.
Suarez altered his style and he stopped training hard. Those are simple facts and the impact of them is as apparent in those two fights I mentioned as in the Barrera fight. That doesn't mean he was some Atg world beater before but he was better than he was in 2001.
You said he was "done"... that's absolutely preposterous... Barrera undresses ANY Hamed ... it was fucking definitive... he beat him with craft and skill and exposed his flaws and he was tough enough to take the occasional shot that got through
calvo exposed precisely the same flaws and Sanchez was doing likewise until his shitty chin swung the fight. But we've struck those fights from existence for some reason so agree to disagree I guess.
Other fighters exposed them too but weren't as good as Barrera so they eventually got waxed or hurt so bad they went into a shell What's your point, caller? Everybody in boxing talked about those flaws from the get go... Hamed was just gifted enough to get away with it against second tier comp because he had great speed and freakish power ... he couldn't get away with it against MAB because he was too fucking good
I liked Hamed, but he was ridiculously overrated. The flaws he showed against Sanchez were also highly obvious in his fight against Kelley. I simply don't believe this whole fall from grace angle. He gets a brutal pounding against pacman
If Barrera had fought Hamed like he did with Kennedy McKinney, Junior Jones or Erik Morales, then Hamed stood a good chance of KO-ing him. As it was, Barrera did something he hadnt done before: Boxing-101 against a southpaw.
Yeah, we know that now...and people knew it after the fight. Hardly anyone knew or predicted he would box like that and anyone who says otherwise, especially on this forum, is a typical fucking liar.
Barrera was more of a brawler back in his younger days. The fights with McKinney, Jones, and the first fight with Morales I think convinced him to get back to his fudamentals.
