Valuev-Briiggs

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  1. dymipepel

    dymipepel Im Banned

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    Who wins and why would you watch it?
     
  2. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Valuev, easily.

    I'd probably watch it.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Of course Kane would watch it... so he could score another beer and rub it in as Briggs is unable to lift his ham hocks and take a swat at Valuev.:lol:
     
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    I guess you'll be picking the....."Asian" Heavyweight!! :notallthere:

    Idiot.
     
  5. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    :lol:

    Dsimon, maybe we should reassess our bet after Klitschko-Brewster II, if Klitschko wins. I don't want to run the house's tab too high. :lol:

    Honestly, I'd be surprised if Briggs fights a credible opponent the rest of his career...if he decides to remain active, it'll likely be the bum circuit.

    Valuev should be a lock against Briggs. He's not great, but he's a solid fighter....certainly slow and basic, but he can put out a jab and go 12 full rounds. That's enough to beat Briggs...probably to stop him late, maybe from exhaustion if nothing else. Valuev's size and activity should dictate a pace Briggs can't keep up with.
     
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    Valuev is pathetic, for real folks.
    He has two left feet and no clue how to box as he has never had anyone to teach him how.
     
  7. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Which means what, you'd pick Briggs to beat him?
     
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    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    dsimon writes:

    It goes without saying bro. :lol: Valuev isn't half bad compared to Briggs.

    I want Brewster to win, I don't know if he can. I guess he is the closest we have to a pure puncher left in the division these days.
     
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    That fight would be a fight that would make boxing history.
    It would make history in that you have one guy that can't fight (Valuev-aka "Lurch") against a guy that won't fight in Shannon, due to whatever physical ailment or mental impediment he is suffering that particular week from.
    That fight would pit the biggest OAF in boxing history against one of the biggest underacheivers ever, and I have always liked Shannon.
    IF he trains, I like Briggs by KO over the bumbling, lead footed baboon from Russia that needs to stay there and stay retired.
    Karl
     
  10. dymipepel

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    Would you say any of that to Valuev's face, keyboard warrior?
     
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    I can't see what this little hero has said because she has long been on my ignore list, but I am quite sure it is nothing productive here to fightbeat.
    Valuev is a bumbling, off balance clod that has no business being in a boxing ring, IMO.
    He would be better served as a bouncer or circus strongman in Russia.
     
  12. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If he trains? His stamina problems go years back, and it seems rather pointless to use that caveat since he hasn't even been below 250 in six years.

    It seems like a perpetual alibi for guys like Briggs (or James Toney) to say well "if he trained" or "if he got in better shape", because recent history clearly demonstrates they can't or won't come in at or near the weight they should.

    It seems like a cop out to emphasize "IF he trains" like there's much chance of it happening.

    But if that's your argument, please define what "IF he trains" means.
     
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    Jeff Mayweather said that Shannon ran only two days for his title winning effort.
    That is what what "IF" meant.
    Karl
     
  14. Mitchell Kane

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    Okay, but if that's how hard he trained for what - at least going into the fight - appeared to possibly, if not probably, be the last title opportunity of his career, there doesn't seem to be much point in saying if he trained harder.

    Maybe he would train harder for a bigger fight against a Klitschko or Valuev, but I wouldn't pick the Briggs who fought Ray Mercer at 257 pounds to beat Valuev and expecting him to get in better shape than that at this point of his career seems futile.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    Unfortunately Mitchell has a point. At this poin tis sounds naive to say if Briggs did this or that. If he is so insolent and lazy that he didn't prepare. and if he hasn't prepared int he past... He never will.
     
  16. Hanzy

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    Briggs is crap, always was. Valuev would kill him, TKO late. The giant may be sloppy but with his jab and stamina, it's all he needs to take care of Briggs. Fight wouldn't go the distance.
     
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    Briggs is a bum.
     
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    Their both right..
     
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    Valuev, and I wouldn't.
     

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