Out First "Legit" WEC vs UFC Fight

Pretty sure we all knew stann was gonna roll leben. Aside from that they werent high caliber fighters in their weight class

http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/01/...ight-jose-aldo-in-toronto-if-he-beats-george/

 

Dude, you lost me. What is the first UFC versus WEC fight in your mind?

In all honesty Stann has been in the UFC since April 2009 and already has 2 loses in the UFC. His first UFC fight was embarrassing. The very ordinary Krzysztof Soszynski.

And Aldo, Hominick and Roop are all guys that last fought in the WEC..

What am I missing? Help a brother out.

Oh, and there have been a ton of guys that came over from the WEC and fought in the UFC way before this merger. Hell Chris Leben himself is a former WEC champ.

 

I was more talking about now the merger happened

and i realize stann looked bad but leben is terrible

 

I'm still lost. Brian Stann was a 205 pound fighter in the WEC. That division was absorbed by the UFC long before the merger.

Also, I like Brian Stann. At 185 the guy is strong. Leben isn't a slouch and no one other than Anderson Silva has ever handled him that easily. That was a big win for Stann.

Is Stann-Leben what you were calling the "First 'legit' WEC versus UFC fight"? If not, what then?

 

I was just being vague man, youre thinking too much.

I was basically just mentioning a legit WEC fighter is finally fighting under the UFC name, thats all

As far as leben goes, stann hits like a mack truck and leben likes to brawl, if you didnt think stann was going to destroy this dude i dont know what to say

 

Finally??

 

No shit. That's where he lost me. Again, I'm not going to list the number of former WEC guys that have already made a name for themselves in the UFC. As I said before, count Leben among them.

And in all honesty, if we are just talking about guys that came over when the UFC absorbed 170, 185 and 205, then Carlos Condit would head that class in my opinion.

Condit is 3-1 since coming over and his only loss was via split decision to the very talented Martin Kampmann. Plus, Condit's destruction of Dan Hardy was epic.

Also, the fight I am most anticipating during the first half of 2011 is Condit-Lytle at UFC 127 on Feb 27. If either guy wins impressively, bring on GSP.

 

And youre still going?
Bro again, i was being vague, it was a joke

if anything i was just poking a little fun at you, nothing more

 

I got the intent. I was just pointing out how badly it failed.:nono:

 

If you get the intent, i didnt fail :)

 

Damn you and your mind games then!!!!!

 

before i ever picked up a glove to train i was a jedi :cheer:

 

looks like pettis is on tap to fight guida next.

 

i guess that sounds about right
but i assume quida would fight maynard/edgar winner, how did he end up in the position

what about kenflo?

 

Guida would be waiting for a while, since Edgar and Maynard will be fighting a rematch. Pettis probably could wait around since he was guaranteed the next title shot, but he doesn't want to wait and be rusty when it happens. Guida vs Pettis makes perfect sense to me. If you can't beat Guida, you didn't deserve a shot anyway. He's like the ultimate gate keeper, just good enough to always hang around the top but not good enough to beat the best guys. This is a damn good match IMO.

 

thats what brought my question up

pettis isnt getting a "shot" hes the WEC champ, he was gonna unify with maynard/edgar

i dont disagree its a good match at all, im just saying should guida be in basically a title fight now. As opposed to some one like kenflo?

 

http://beat.bodog.com/sports/ufc-125-betting-chris-leben-vs-brian-stann-61955.html
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UFC 125 betting gets underway this Saturday with a bunch of great fights on the main card. Without a doubt, one of them is a middleweight bout between Chris Leben and Brian Stann.
Leben is a -170 favorite."

I'm sure you made tons of money betting on Stann, NeighborMike, right? I mean it was so obvious Stann was going to beat him.

 

I bet all the time very frequently, im well aware of what the odds were. Thanks for trying to put me on blast
I had rampage over machida at +220 also, you can call me a profit at anytime now

 

There is no WEC belt, it's done. No more. He's fighting for the UFC belt, the winner isn't going to be called the WEC champ. If he fights Guida it certainly won't be for the WEC belt either.

 

Lead off with: "Pretty sure we all knew stann was gonna roll leben."

Trplsec replied with: "In all honesty Stann has been in the UFC since April 2009 and already has 2 loses in the UFC. His first UFC fight was embarrassing. The very ordinary Krzysztof Soszynski."

You reply with: "and i realize stann looked bad but leben is terrible"

You follow with: "As far as leben goes, stann hits like a mack truck and leben likes to brawl, if you didnt think stann was going to destroy this dude i dont know what to say "

Get called out with the odds showing Leben was the favorite.

And then reply with "...im well aware of what the odds were."

And take into account that Leben was coming off a very good win, he was the favorite for a reason. And Stann is completely ordinary.

I guess I doubt that you had such foresight as you are acting like everyone should have had. And I doubt you made any real money on the fight despite its outcome being so obvious. Am I wrong?

 

Pettis was the WEC champ at 155 Edgar for the UFC

The winner of Edgar/maynard fights pettis to "unify" the titles. So there is one champ in the division

The title may not exist, but its still a unification bout. Thats what they said on the final WEC and thats what they said referring to pettis at the last UFC

 

Yes, you are wrong
And why do you care? Whats the point in trying to prove me wrong?

Ill take away the word "everyone" and go back to my initial statement

Stann punches like a mack truck and used to fight at 205. He also has a good chin

Leben likes to brawl, has an ok chin with the quick ability to recover. Im sorry if something that seems obvious to me isnt obvious to everyone else

And using odds doesnt mean a person cant be confident in there picks or betting. You spent the time to dig up the odds, you must gamble are u gonna sit here and tell me you have never once looked at something with similar numbers and said "man thats easy money" if you do I find it very very hard to believe you can so no

I assume leben was so highly favored because of the fact hes much more experienced on the ground. Having seen both of them fight i never even took that in to account.

Im sorry if I used a vague term like 'everyone" ill be sure to proof read all of my posts for words that may leave the things I said open for some one like you to vulture my comments

 

I think you are really confused about the whole WEC and UFC thing to be perfectly honest.

 

http://www.nokaut.com/?id=12&lang=e&solo_news=7699

http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/pub...ion_bout_next_for_Frankie_Edgar_printer.shtml

http://mmanews.se/mmanews/anthony-pettis-wants-to-fight-before-the-unification/

Yes.....very very confused. The unification bout is a hoax. Sorry

 

Ok, this is directly off the UFC's website

http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-Adds-Featherweight-and-Bantamweight-Divisions

 

florian is sidelined w/ some injury. guida was never gonna get a title shot. the talk was that had gomi beaten guida, then gomi gets the title shot vs. the winner of maynard/edgar.

 

Ah ok
I have no problem with it, he never doesnt give 100% and if anyone deserves to at least get a shot its him

 

Funny, but I just realized 'Mike' and 'NeighborMike' are two different posters.

By the way, why does the WEC Champ automatically deserve a UFC title shot?

Guys like Leben, Cantwell, Condit, Franca, Parisyan, etc were all WEC Champs when they came to the UFC and none got automatic title shots. In fact, I think Leben is the only one I know that actually ended up fighting for a UFC Title.

And think about this, Leben was WEC Champ and had to enter TUF in order to get into the UFC.

And suddenly Pettis deserves a UFC Title shot because he JUST won the WEC belt? Please. There are a bunch of guys more deserving than Pettis.

 

I do agree with it. But despite how confused Z claims I am, despite the fact there is actual proof on the UFC website

The fight is to be seen as a unification bout. So is he "deserving" youre right, probably not. But thats what the ufc sees it as and wants

 

This is a horrible fight for Pettis. He is most likely going to lose. And he will never get a look at the title shot. Pettis' manager should be shot. He should have said he would wait for the rematch to take place and then take his shot at the winner. Horrible move.