How many can you name? Boxing game thread!

How many heavyweights can you name that have a single better win than Corrie Sanders, the consensus best fighter on Vitali Klitschko's resume.

All eras are eligible. Think we can reach 100 names?

I'll start, format will be self-evident. Only one opponent necessary.

Ali (Foreman)
Buster Douglas (Tyson)
Hasim Rahman (Lewis)
Lennox Lewis (Holyfield)
Holyfield (Bowe)
Bowe (Holyfield)
You get the idea!

 

RJJ (Ruiz)

 

How many can you name that still have less money left than Vitali?

Holyfield
Tyson
Bowe
Rahman
Tua

You get the idea.

EDIT: Good choice, Joe. Roy fits, too.

 

M. Spinks (Holmes)
L. Spinks (Ali)
Frazier (Ali)
Norton (Ali)
Foreman (Frazier)

 

If you don't want to play, kindly fuck off. Thanks. :bears:

 

Man, you really have been bashing on his resume lately though. It's not really his fault that he is in a horrible era.

 

Fair. I just think it's important to address these points as a fighter approaches the end. It'll soon be time to rate Vitali in an all-time sense.

 

Kevin McBride (Tyson)
Danny Williams (Tyson)
Brian Yates (Shavers)
Briggs (Foreman)
Sergei Kobozev (Ruiz)
Danell Nicholson (Ruiz)
Alexander Povetkin (Byrd)

 

:bears: Good stuff Ugo, although I'd take Sanders over the Tyson's that Williams and McBride beat. He'd probably take the Byrd that Povetkin beat too.

 

John L Sullivan {Jake Kilraine}

 

nate tubbs waxed a younger sanders

 

I'd also pick Larry Donald over the Ali who lost to Spinks, possibly the Holmes who lost to Spinks etc

 

And Julian Jackson waxed a younger Terry Norris. Simon Brown has no excuses.

 

sanders is to norris as irish2002 is to seymour schulberg.

 

Yeah, but analyzing sport has never been your forte. No biggie.

 

John Ruiz seems to appear on too many of these lists to actually qualify. :dunno:


Even Bob Foster, who we all consider a failure as a Heavyweight, beat his share of average Heavy's throughout his career.

 

Muhammad Ali of '78 KO1 That Heartless Pussy Commie Fag Shitally Quitshko

Better?

 

I think thats what he was looking for.

Its an indictment. Boxing needs to get its act together. There is no room for this snobbery any more- the MMA and UFC gangs have closed the gap considerably- as they will entertain just about anybody from just about anywhere, irrespective of style, etc.

 

Sanders himself has a better "win" than Vitali.......over Wladimir. He also did a better job on Czyz than Holyfield. The bottom line is, as Cdogg pointed out- its easy to have a better resume and still not have a hope in hell versus those fighters with the inferior resume.

The example Cdogg quoted was none other than Bob Foster vs Marvin Hagler.

There are others- as I said, Billy Backus has that stoppage win over prime Jose Napoles, Rubin Carter has that stoppage win over a prime Emile Griffith, and that stoppage over Florentino Fernandez- but nobody would dare argue that Monzon would have any difficulty with Backus {too big, too strong, too obdurate and powerful} or that Gene Fullmer would have any difficulty with Hurricane Carter.

 

Honestly, the only one from that list that I'd say qualifies is Briggs over Foreman - the irony in that being that the fight was an outright robbery.

Byrd is marginal, but I'll co-sign on it just for the sake of not deleting his post altogether ::

The rest don't belong. The Ruiz that lost to Kobozev and Nicholson didn't even rate at the time. Shit, Ruiz wasn't even a full-fledged heavy when he lost to Kobozev (a career cruiserweight, if I'm thinking of the right fighter - the one that lived in Little Odessa and was killed by Russian mobsters?)

 

Ruiz lost to Kobozev, a cruiserweight, at cruiserweight....Boxrec claims that both men weighed 195.5lbs for the fight.

 

Back then, the cruiserweight limit was 190lbs.

 

You can throw this in as a pretty good win too...........some Halcyon and Glorious shit going down in this one....keep an eye out for Norton doing some Crowd-Surfing towards the end....


.....of course, who am I kidding, Scott LeDouche, The Fighting French-Fry, would destroy Vitali.

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was gonna say the same. But still, both were active cruiserweights at the time - Kobozev for sure. Was a big fan of his back in the day.

 

I understand that- but it would be a stretch to say that Ruiz and Kobozev were both established heavyweights at the time, and certainly Kobozev appears to have had no intention to move in that direction. Looks a lot like a catch-weight to me with neither man being regarded as a Hvy, as such.

 

Active cruisers is what I would say too- a bit like David Haye fighting Tomasz Bonin well before Haye made his last fight at Cruiser vs Maccarinelli.

 

Bingo

 

McCall (Lewis)
Bruno (McCall)
Haye (Ruiz)
Valuev (Ruiz)
Chagaev (Ruiz)
Golota (Witherspoon)
Witherspoon (Bruno)
Smith (Bruno)

MTF

 

Vitali's all-time ranking has nothing to do with what boxers all-time have better wins then his best win. It's not his fault he is fighting in this era.

 

The sentiment this thread seeks to express is just the latest in a long line of bitterness doled out by people who love to have themselves regarded, and indeed love to regard themselves, as objective realistic people who doth merely tell it as it is.

First off, we were never going to hear the Klitschkos named in the same sentence as Roy Jones. Then the Klitschkos were no good, quitters, soft- the usual Eurotrash. Then they were never going to get back into it. Then the division was poor. Then Sam Peter was going to do it. Then it was basketball, and American football, and all manner of excuses. Now its this latest installment.

When people set out to undermine, to smear, to besmirch- this is what they will do, no matter how contravening their rationale may be to common sense or any notions of objectivity or reason.