How many can you name? Boxing game thread!

Fair enough if you see it that way, but I don't think they'd buy into such a fighter. You gotta deliver excitement (in or beyond the ring) at some level to ignite the American press. Klitschko doesn't have that.

 

Don't sweat it. Ol' Irish enjoys this sort of back and forth. It's practically his rasion d'etre...

MTF

 

How does one explain the amount of praise and attention Hopkins recieves from "they"?... 'All time great' , 'hall of famer', 'legend', 'masterful',..these words are choked on in a ballistic editorial orgasm,..they're so convoluted they may aswell just say from head to tail,.. "Hopkins is great, great, good, great, legendary, masterful, legendary, old school, good, good, good, slick and savvy"... as it would deliver the same intended aggressive release of lust. He even had a white american writer (ofcourse fucken ofcourse ) defending his racial supremecist spat against Pacquiao, 'tru dat!' the writer added as a footnote.
Hopkins style of chronic clinching, strict counter-punching, and minimal output has burned the eyes for years,.. I cant remember the last person he ever stopped?.. Ohhh,....the fixed fight with De La Hoya, yes.. decision, close decision, contraversial decision,.. excitement, it's all there... the ingredients to 'connecting'.

 

I do draw the line at being declared as reminding certain posters of cross-burning welfare-dependent thugs simply because I have referred to the spectre of American media gorillas throwing their weight around. The behaviour of the agents of ESPN, HBO, etc, if not those organizations proper, has been fairly poor at the best of times, and alluding to it doesn't make me a lout.

 

They're gonna get ya, Irish.

 

Your century is over pal. Other people having a go now.:egypt:

 

What's that lurking in the shadows over there?

 

Shadows? There are no shadows!! All corners have been illuminated by the glow of progress. You've been listening to rumour mongers, comrade!! hno:

 

He's beaten "great" fighters?

And if you can't remember the last person he stopped you haven't been watching boxing long enough.

 

He likes the attention.

That's why he follows people into TAAA to spam threads over there when he feels he's not getting enough attention here.

 

Was it not de la Hoya?

 

It was him.

I have to say, I love that Kauki is comparing Wlad to a now 46 year old boxer.

He looked around for the most favorable comparison to Wlad's style he could find and came up with a boxer on the other side of 45.

 

What threads have I "spammed" in TAAA???

We all love a bit of attention, but I said, I draw the line at being accused of sharing the sentiments of cross-burners.

 

One example:

 

Yep. You see now how ridiculous it sounds?:dunno: Obama is there on merit and for having excellent timing.

 

You're a child looking for attention.

I look forward to when you're finally banned.

I'm not holding my breath on it, but I do look forward to it.

 

Finally- nice to know your true motives, Sire.

Everybody knows that all the good white politicians are shit, and are off playing basketball, and that is why Obama got the nod.

Either that, or there is an ethnic, economic and demographic trend at work which, combined with Mr Obamas undoubted ability as an orator and legislator, that have propelled him to office.

Which is it???? I would hazard it is the latter rather than the former.

Only an idiot would suggest that the general uselessness of George Bush got Obama into office. One does need some talent of one's own, you see.

And on that note, there remains little else than for me to thank you for giving me the opportunity to put a hurting on you, once and for all.

Cheers.

 

Irish, is it really your contention that the HW division is not poor at this time?

 

In any discussion, there needs to be a reference point, a set of definitions, etc.

What do you mean by "poor".....????

Sometimes, a situation can be "poor" because there are talented fighters who do not want to fight {Mayweather vs Pac} or "poor" because talented fighters can't get fights {Haglers exclusion from the ABC tournament, Jeanette and Wills frozen out first by the colour line, then by Johnson} , or sometimes a situation can be "poor" because there are simply no talented fighters, or there is a dominant champion with no immediate nemesis {Joe Louis and the Bum of the Month club}. Other times, it can be "poor" in that politics and shennanigans has inferior fighters getting title shots and recognition to the detriment of better fighters, or where better fighters have taken step-aside case {Hipp, Tyson, Lewis, the mid 90's}

What you have today is a bit of a lot of things. The best fights can't get made. Haye won't fight the Klitschkos. The Klitschkos wont fight each other. The immediate tier of contenders are not quite there- at least we think they aren't quite there yet. There is no immediate nemesis for the established champions- at least not one that can capture the imagination of the entire world, AKA America.

But is any of this new? Joe Louis is an ATG for KO victories over 170lb Billy Conn, Acromegalic Primo Carnera, tubs of shit like Tami Mauriello and Tony Galento.

Poor how? Poor because some fucks writing for magazines -who have been saying the division has been poor since Tyson- suddenly decide to make this particular era their hobby-horse?

Poor because some fuck like Bert Sugar {who used to go around saying "If boxing was a stock I would short sell it"} decides it is poor?

Poor because they don't make steel in Youngstown anymore and so its "not like Old days.." :shit:

Todays heavyweights could beat a lot of the so-called "Greats", with the exception of the very very Greats.

Could things be better? Yes.

But as long as there are fighters out there who could have made mince-meat of Quarrys face then its not a poor division, just yet.

 

Very surplus to the question, Irish.

The truest & simplest answer would simply have been an admittance it is a garbage land, because it is. I know you feel that would damage the Klitschkos by extension, but the truth is the truth.

The division is garbage. No double-talk or BS. Just call it for what it is. The rest of us are.

 

Short and simple and to the point: this is garbage-land:<iframe title="YouTube video player" class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RINFZ_8BhIw" frameborder="0" allowFullScreen></iframe>

 

He'll keep saying it until someone believes him.

Unfortunately for him, we've already seen the best heavyweight of this era get his own face mince-meated by a late 30's part-time version of Lewis.

 

:giggle:

I guess 10 days to prepare for a bout must be full-time. When somebody has an attention span as short as yours, 10 days must seem like an awful long time.

And I think Ramonza would disagree with you as to who the better brother is.

Now we don't want that, do we??:giggle:

 

I know Ramonza prefers heavyweights that've been KO'd by guys likes of Ross Purrity and Corrie Sanders but not me.

 

Oh, Oh look...here is something brilliant!!!

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It's okay Irish, I know you're just upset that Lewis beat every fighter he faced.

That he cut up Vitali's face so bad he could've taken it off the Dr. worn it around that Staples Center ring like Hannibal Lecter only adds to it.

 

Lewis got rematches, which aided and abetted him in this quest to great effect.

 

So did Wladimir...you know, if you count the times he called on big brother to do it for him.

As you were...

:Steve-Dave/MMA:

 

No, Wlad despite being 240lbs, throws more punches, and regularly stops his opponent, and even clinches less,..Hopkins is in a league of his own here, and that's the way it's reported in the media too, with a slightly different interpretation ofcourse,.. and that's the point.

I think you know all too well, there's only one way for Wlad to put some 'great opponents' on his resume,...that's to drag them up from those divisions a mere 7lbs apart, with 4 titles per section. There's always plenty of glamorous 'proven' champions down there. Looks good p4p, p4p, p4p, p4p ,..and once again, I can cite Bernard Hopkins as the example,.. he dwarfs most supermiddleweights,..but has 'De La Hoya' mentioned on his shortlist of 'great' opponents.. 'Lame heavyweights' should be divided 7lbs apart from 200lbs onwards,.. 207 division with 4 belts, 214 with 4 belts, 221 with 4 belts, 228 with 4 belts, 235 with 4 belts, then Wlad's division,.. it oughta do his resume a service stopping some of his present boring mandatories who may have racked them up below in persuit to the top of the mountain of boxing, Wlad could have had his 'Hopkins - Tito' moment a few times by now.

7lb's apart with 4 belts on the line, das dey wey it's dunnn.

 

Oh, so now the top is pulling fighters up in weight?

(Quick, retype that before someone mentions Tomasz Adamek and David Haye, you know, 2 of the top "contenders"...not to mention Chris Byrd, the guy Wlad beat to start two title runs.)

Nice of you to mention Wlad's in the 240s, though.