Junior Witter. What a joke.

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  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    Witter came into this latest fight against Victor Lupo having not fought since August 2009. He moved up to 147 for this fight, but after this loss, nobody will take Witter seriously and imo should retire.

    He started the fight brightly and it looked like he won the first 4 rounds of the 10 round contest, but after the 4th round he completely fell apart. He constantly held Lupo, he didn't want to make a fight of it and hit the canvas almost 10 times in total, stumbling over at times due to exhaustion and frustration and with Lupo throwing him to the canvas a few times too.

    Imo, the ref should have stopped the fight a couple of rounds before the 10th round. Lupo in the end won by UD.

    If you do manage to catch this fight, you will think to yourself the same I was thinking.... What a joke.
     
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    Lupo good Witter bad
     
  3. Jimmy

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    The way witter fought made lupo look bad. I'll be keeping an eye out for lupo's next fight.
     
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    Witter used to be a good fighter, but he missed the boat. He shouldn't be fighting anymore. Witter was a better fighter than Amir Khan could ever hope to be.
     
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    In what way was Witter ever a good fighter? The guy sucked ass and had zero basic boxing skills. He got away with what he did because he was slightly more talented then the fodder he was putting away in England. Most of Witter's talent went straight to his power which wasn't all that but looked deadly as hell which once again points to the talent he was fighting.

    You may hate Khan and that's fine but don't polish one turd to make the other look better. Witter had limited skills, limited punching technique, kept his hands at waist level and was just horrible to watch. The defensive coward who fought Judah actually looked better than the slow, boring, plodding potshotter he later turned into and the only reason I won't argue Khan is better is because I've never seen Khan fight. Still there's no question in my mind that Khan is better than Witter, I just won't argue it because I try to deal in facts.
     
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    Sorry bud, but how have you not seen Khan fight?

    MTF
     
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    Witer should have retired after the Alexander fiasco. At one time he was considered, rightly or wrongly, one of the best three 140lb-ers in the world by quite a few but he was always pretty horrible to watch and by making an enemy of lil' Ricky he near enough ensured that he would never be popular in the UK which means he probably has made all that much money.

    Still, this latest 'performance' was a disgrace and he should quit now unless he is that skint that he is happy to become one of those old, 'name' fighters who get beat by up-and-comers to pad out a CV.

    MTF
     
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    How does that work??
     
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    Witter 03 > Khan 11
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Personally I base one fighter being better than the other on achievements and performances against top opposition rather than just saying one is better than the other because I happen to not like one of the fighters
     
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    N'Dou, Kotelnik, Corely, Harris & splitting a decision with Tim Bradley

    vs

    Kotelnik, Maidana, Mallinagi, Salita

    :dunno:
     
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    A "prime" Witter beat Kotelnik by one point, Khan shut him out. Witter got his ass kicked by Bradley, that was never a split decision. Harris was past his best and Witter looked like shit against Corley, although the fencing thing was funny. Witter doesn't have a win as good as Maidana on his record.
     
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    Dude you wouldn't believe how many of the top fights of the last couple years I've missed. Even I don't know how it happens but it just does. To be honest though I've also had a complete lack of interest in the sport lately and even seem to find it boring.

    Witter still sucked though, there's no disputing that historical fact.
     
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    Please don't put a feather in Witter's cap for the Bradley fight. :nono:


    Witter was always a cancer on the eyes. The Maidana fight pretty much trumps anything Witter has ever accomplished.

    Even in the fights Witter won...........the audience felt like they lost. :lol:
     
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    Khan is certainly way better than Witter at beating light hitting boxers with feet too slow or style ill suited to getting inside on him. Khan is spectacular in the one dimension he's competent in. But Witter wasn't so one dimensional. It's kinda like comparing how Tua might deal with chinny brawlers like Moorer & Ruiz vs how Holyfield might. Khan is THAT 1-dimensional, stylistically.

    In all seriousness, I think Khan's a bit better than Witter but not so much better than performances against guys like Kotelnik & Mallinagi make it seem. And because I hate him Im gonna say Witter is better. If Khan does better than Witter did against Bradley I'll eat my words. Hopefully we'll see soon. :crafty:
     
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    Witter reminded me a lot of those guys who used to come out of Nobby Nobbs stable of "Losers Unlimited"- the ability to "tuck up and go walkabout" despite being in the presence of some very dangerous people, a la Zab Judah.

    No fighter, of any caliber, would have taken that fight on 2 days notice. Witter showed up and Judah did not land one punch of any signifiance the entire night.

    Witter was redolent of so many of the products of Ingles Wincobank system- he had the fundamentals down. He could not be hit for shit if the mood took him. He might lose the fight, as he did with Witter, but he would not be hurt, dropped, cut or in any other way discomfited beyond the basic exertions of moving about the ring.

    Khan, by contrast, gets hit and dropped with what could fairly be referred to as regularity.

    Juxtapose Witters perfomance versus Bradley to that rendered by Alexander, or juxtapose Witters performance versus Judah to that turned in by Khan versus Prescott or Gomez, and people may begin to see where I am coming from.

    Witter also fought a lot of names- Judah, Bradley, Ndou, Chop-Chop Corley, Kotelnik, Alexander, Vivian Harris.

    Khan has been immaculately managed and presented. Witter, by contrast, was some flash bloke from Sheffield who ran his mouth a bit when Hatton was champ.
     
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    witter was poo poo. he had all he could handle from that scrub colin hynes.
     
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    An old Witter did better with Bradley than that scrub Alexander.

    "Oh, my head, my eyes, my head and my eyes"
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    not really. bradley bullied and muscled his way in and won at least 8 rounds. he also knocked him down w/ that overhand right. that one judge who scored it for witter was as crooked as they come.
     
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    I hope that fight is in the prediction league, it will be another chunk of daylight between me and you :stir:

    Believe it or not, I was a fan of Witter during his heyday, primarily because I hated Ricky Hatton, but he was never as good as Khan
     
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    How can anyone take Witter seriously after that shocker!
    He had, maybe he still has intentions of facing Khan. On any day at 140, even 147, Khan thumps Witter.
    That last performance showed me that Witter has nothing left to offer. He gave up in that Lupo fight, what the hell would happen if he faced Khan. It would be a one-sided annihilation.
     
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    You see, you're choosing to remember the only good version of Witter that exists rather than the horrible fighter he morphed into. Incidentally even that "good" version of Witter was only good in the sense that he seemed to have some skills defensively. If you want to argue that's what made him so great I'll have to remind you that boxing is a hit and not get hit sport. Yeah Witter had the not get hit part down the first portion of his career and the hit part down the second part of his career and even if you combined those two versions he'd still suck because he had zero offensive skill other than a talented hard punch that could KO English tomato cans. The guy sucked and I don't care how much you Khan haters say it, Witter was not a good fighter, period.
     
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    And you guys need to shut up about Witter too, otherwise Attraction's going to come out of posting retirement.
     
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    Well obviously nobody can or will. He's shot to pieces.
     
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    it sucks that hatton never fought witter. that would've been the brit's version of chavez/camacho.
     
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    I'd be picking Khan, tbh. :Wah:
     
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    Of course. A Khan/Witter fight in the future should not be considered. It would be embarrassing On Witter's behalf. Of course back in Witter's prime, he would have been a tricky opponent. His style would be quite frustratimg for Khan, but i would have favoured Khan comfortably to win.
     
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    I think Witter would have been a very dangerous opponent for Khan. Witter was a dangerous slugger who thrived on guys leaping in against him. Khan would dominate rounds but the chances of a BOOM moment would be there until the final bell.
     
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    Witter very well could land a shot that Khan wouldn't see coming, but imho, a prime Witter wouldn't take out Khan.
     
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    He did have a bit of pop, fast too, not the best finisher though. Khan easy win whenever
     

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