Mugabi's chin wasn't exactly concrete either. KO either way is possible. Mugabi was still in his prime when he faced Norris anyway..evidenced by both his age and his winning/KO streak leading up to that fight.
this is an IDIOTIC point of view After taking a sustained drubbing from Marvin Hagler, Mugabi lost his next fight via TKO to Duane Thomas (he quit because of a terrible eye injury, broken orbital) He then did not fight for over a year He resumed fighting in 1988 and proceeded to face a "who the fuck is that?" of names... his next 8 opponents were unranked fighters with a combined SIXTY FOUR defeats and who had managed to lose TWENTY ONE of their previous 40 bouts (4 of them had lost at least their previous two fights before facing Mugabi) He then miraculously got a shot at the WBC light middleweight belt, which he won against a SHITTY FIGHTER on nothing more than a fluke... the shitty fighter, Rene Jacquot, slipped and fell, breaking his ankle which of course made Mugabi the winner by default After "winning" that "title", he fought two matches as a SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT against a pair of fighters who had lost two in a row (both by KO) and SIX (three by KO) in a row, respectively prior to facing him after that last, he dropped 12 pounds in two months and defended his "title" against Norris he then won two fights against novices before getting splattered again by Gerald McClellan the notion that Mugabi was in his prime against Norris is easily one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard the further notion that age, as determined by years since birth, is somehow an accurate and reliable indicator of BOXING AGE is the kind of moronic observation a complete novice with no knowledge of the sport would make, not a guy who has been typing on a boxing message board (and we would assume, following the sport) for over 11 years Just admit that you were completely pulling this little "observation" out of your ass
No motherfucker..I didn't say the things in isolation. I didn't say it JUST because of his age nor JUST because of his win/KO streak prior to the fight. i said it in COMBINATION. Which is important here. Also, before Hagler, Mugabi fought a list of bonafide BUMS. What's the difference between that oppostion and the one preceeding Norris? People hype pre-Hagler Mugabi and denigrate post-Hagler Mugabi to conveniently make Hagler look better. Fact of the matter is, Hagler let a BUM last 11 rounds with him.
Mugabi had killed two very solid contenders in James Green and Frank Fletcher, those wins are so much better than anything he did after Hagler that the point is moot only a legitimately dangerous CONTENDING fighter would have had those two victories at that point in time... Mugabi was the unanimous choice as the number one contender in the world by all three of the sanctioning bodies at that time... this does not happen very often and before anyone tries to call Mugabi a junior middleweight... he was a MIDDLEWEIGHT, he had fought 15 of his fights at that weight prior to Hagler... he moved to Jr. Middle only when it became clear that he was not going to win the Middleweight title as long as Hagler/Leonard/Hearns were around furthermore, Hagler beat Mugabi all over the place in that fight, it wasnt close at all... people make it sound like the fight was 5-5 at the time of the stoppage when it was more like 9-1 Mugabi lost to Hagler, stopped fighting, got REALLY FAT and then fought Thomas evenly until his orbital bone was broken, then he got fat again, stopped fighting, came back and beat TERRIBLE fighters there is a HUGE difference between Mugabi the contender and Mugabi after he Marvin beat him up... just because YOU don't know who the guys he fought were doesnt mean they weren't solid contending fighters who were leagues better than the flotsam he faced in the years leading up to Norris
Remember when you recently said that your posts are backed with FACTS? It's not happening here. It's obvious that you don't know much, if at all, about Mugabi's career. But, as usual, that didn't even make you pump the brakes even a little before talking out of your ass in your endless agenda driven attempts to make Hopkins 160 lb competition look better by reinventing Hagler's.
Dude. Sometimes I don't even need to respond to something because you have already summed things up so well. And you've done it in this topic regarding the reality of Mugabi's career. I would also add Curtis Parker to the list of contenders KOed by Mugabi. Parker was a legit bottom of the top 10 guy and tough Philly fighter who was never stopped (or even knocked down, I believe) prior to facing Mugabi while mixing it up with some of the best middleweight contenders of the early to mid 80's. At the time, that was a bit of a "Holy Shit" result. Not so much that he beat Parker, but that he did it so easily.
exactly but because Sly doesnt know who that is, he simply writes him off as a bum thanks for the compliment, man
Wait!! Are you saying that bluster and generalizations DON'T take the place of actually knowing what happened when discussing a fighter's career????
Mugabi was greatly diminished post-Hagler. I would take a prime Beast over Norris by KO with little hesitation.
I will say that Norris' chin gets a worse rap than it deserves. But I do think Mugabi was capable of exploiting that weakness.
