Can Roid do it ? Keep in mind other than that victory over a useless John Ruiz Roy has never accomplished ANYTHING above 175.
Hard to say. Haye would need to do damage early and often. If he couldn't i don't see him making the necessary adjustments mid fight. Roy feasts upon guys lunging with single power shots.
If it were that simple every guy with below average punch resistance would have many more KO losses. Haye's a pretty good puncher, but he's not going to have Roy splattered on the canvas the first time he lands anything other than a jab.
Or just the much bigger fighter with enough speed to bother Jones, coupled with big time punching power.
Hard to say, but I think that ultimately Haye's size and speed would probably be too much for RJJ. Haye by KO.
Not only that, but at 190 (not the full 200 lb cruiserweight), Haye's stamina would be an issue as well. I like Roy in this fight. Not impossible to envision Haye landing a fight-altering shot, but can just as easily see Roy taking a safety-first decision with room to spare.
Haye is awkward, has terrible footwork, poor balance and little to no head movement. Comparatively speaking the handspeed is a mismatch. Classic "punchers chance" sceanrio for Haye. Nothing more. Roy by wide decision.
I wish guys would remember the Roy Jones at 28 not the one at 35. Haye is awful and in his prime. As said...mismatch.
yes, but he wouldn't have been as tough:rock::rock: Roy can do it, and a lot easier than most people think.
agREED I also think a bit more is being made of Jones's chin than necessary... not that a full fledged Cruiser couldn't seriously hurt him I just don't think he necessarily had a glass chin... I have always believed (based on what my own eyes told me) that for whatever reason, Jones was clearly "different" after he came back down from Ruiz... he looked weak, the speed was still there, but it appeared unfocused to me, his punches more a learned behavior than anything thought out, there wasn't the sense that he could move this way or that way in a millisecond and stop on a dime... he just looked diminished to me... I remember feeling it watching the very first couple of rounds of the first fight against Tarver... he didnt look like the Roy Jones I had always seen... the friend I was watching that fight with concurred with my view of it, he just didnt look like Roy Jones anymore that said, I doubt he ever had a concrete chin or anything like that, but he did get hit once in a while, even if the opposition wasn't the greatest overall, some of them could at least punch and some of them landed on him... the total lack of punch resistance he showed after he came down from heavyweight was, in my opinion, something NEW... I find it nearly impossible to believe that if he had ALWAYS been that chinny that he would have been so dominant for so long before that... he WOULD HAVE been caught at some point Think of how he was knocked out by Tarver and Johnson... I mean, dead out on the canvas, brutal "where am I?" knockouts, the kind that happen to guys who can not take clean punches anymore... If Jones's chin was REALLY that awful when he was in his prime, he would have lost (not Montell Griffin lost, but a REAL loss) LONG BEFORE he ever was even in a position to fight Ruiz or win three titles It's become popular in light of Jones's swift and decisive fall from grace to pick virtually any good puncher to knock him out in MMs as if he was always this fragile guy, but I'm not buying it (bear in mind, Jake, I'm in no way accusing you of buying it either, I just felt like making this point after I agreed with your consensus regarding this matchup)
Don't Blame REED Because YOUR Favorite Fighter LOST to the Same "Useless John Ruiz" that "Roid" Jones TOYED w/.... REEDopcorn:
