Kermit Cintron vs Saul Alvarez @154!

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Hex-One, Mar 7, 2011.

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Who wins?

  1. Cintron by KO

    22.2%
  2. Cintron by DEC

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Alvarez by KO

    33.3%
  4. Alvarez by DEC

    44.4%
  1. Damien

    Damien Undisputed Champion

    Disagree with the group that is saying he has average power. You can tell that his shots have a certain thud to them and his legs are very thick for 154lbs; definite power.

    People are also knocking his defense too much. He had ZERO respect for Hatton's power and because of this he didn't even attempt to get out of the way of the incoming shots. This doesn't equate to him not having a defense.

    Personally I think he gives Cintron a beating.
     
  2. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    I agree with this
     
  3. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    So reading this thread:

    - Cintron is elite
    - Matthew Hatton is a proven durable fighter
    - Canelo's defense shouldn't be based on what we've seen through 35+ pro fights
    - Canelo has special power
    - Retreads like Joel Julio and Cory Spinks are proper next steps for a fighter parading as a champion

    Did I miss anything?
     
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    :lol: :bears:
     
  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    :lol:
     
  6. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    :lol:
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    :laughing::laughing::laughing:

    Gotta love these Canelo fan boys.
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Canelo has GOOD power in his left hand (not 'special') and pretty much no power in his right hand.
     
  9. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    One more reason to believe he's Oscar's love child
     
  10. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :lol: :bears:
     
  11. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Well beside at least the same number of posters in this thread disagreeing strongly with every aspect you picked out here, no.

    Good job, covering all corners... :bears:
     
  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Oscar shagged some Irish bird at an amateur tournament in 1990 and they eloped to Mexico. All the pieces fit.
     
  13. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    good job detecting sarcasm. :bears:
     
  14. Neil

    Neil The Merchant of Venom

    this could explain many things. much like the theories involving jordan and kwame brown.
     
  15. His_Royness

    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack



    umm... So by only picking the good things sarcastically you wanted to do what exactly?
     
  16. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Everyone else got it. Not sure what to tell ya, homie.
     
  17. Outlander

    Outlander Leap-Amateur

    Saul Alvarez is going to find himself in deep the first time he fights someone with a good jab and at least average power. I don't know that Saul ever met a jab he didn't eat. I like Alvarez in that he is exciting to watch, he is young, cocky, and has decent punching power - but he is not long for this sport with his current style.

    Some of the HBO commentators made sort of oblique comparisons between George Foreman and Saul Alvarez (in terms of their punching style), and in some ways those comparisons were accurate. No, Alvarez does not hit like Foreman did, but his style is sort of a forward-plodding, no head movement, heavy-handed march through his opponent. Unfortunately, if your "heavy hands" cannot take out Matthew Hatton, you have a problem on your hands. Your heavy hands, that is.

    Without one punch death power, Alvarez will not be capable of enduring even a fighter EXACTLY like Matthew Hatton but with just a little more punching power. I cannot believe how many times Hatton connected clean. Alvarez also cannot fight going backwards, and has the bad habit of covering up when he does take a step backwards, allowing his opponent (even Hatton) to unleash 3-4 free punches. Alvarez also clearly slows down in the the last 3-4 rounds, although that is not uncommon and I don't consider it a major impediment.

    I think Cintron probably beats Alvarez right now at 154, but I would not be supremely confident about it given Cintron's erratic past. Maybe 60/40 Cintron. Barring any ring flights, this would be a great fight to watch.
     
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    I completely agree with the bolded bit. And let's face it, without his huge, effortless punching power, Foreman would have been nothing really.
     

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