Bradley vs Khan is on

Actually Musze, it makes perfect sense. It is all about results.

If Bradley has been able to consistently get inside on fighters at world level, regardless of styles, it's pretty safe to say he's good at getting inside.

Which he is. He's quick on his feet, quick to pull the trigger, knows when and how to attack.

Sure he might have more trouble with Khan than those other guys, but the fact remains - he is good at getting inside.

Plus, for all Khan's speed he is very predictable in his movement and patterns.

 

I agree with your post and have already picked Bradley.

If i had to say how Khan beats Bradley it would be with quick hard combinations and excessive use of the clinch when Bradley gets close. That will allow him (in part) to nullify Bradely's inside game and also get quick rests.

If this fight takes place in England you can be sure Amir doesn't even get warned for holding, but if Bradley comes within an inch of headbutting he'll be penalized. Throw in a dash of biased scoring and you have a recipe for Khan win.

 

I don't get this khoward thing. After facong Maidana, I think he proved that he'll face the elite of his division. And if he really takes on bradley, we won't have anything to say about his opposition for a good while

 

King Khan all the way baby.

 

My god some of you are gonna be fucking shocked at how comfortable this is for Khan, you can write as many essays as you want about it but it will be easy for Amir. But anyway I can't be arsed to argue about it because of other shit and I'm always right anyway so yeah. Khan UD

 

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Could well be, man, wouldn't rule it out

 

A man who calls Tszyu an average champion is calling THAT stupid.::

Tszyu's skill set>>>> Bradley's

 

No, actually Bradley has more skill than Tszyu. Tszyu has that basic, robotic, classic Euro skill.

Bradley is craftier and more intelligent in the ring.

Tszyu is an average champion by the way. Not an average paper titlist, an average world champion.

He is basically 2-2 against the 4 best fighters he fought, and never beat an elite fighter.

Anyone who disagrees that he was an average world champion is overrating him.

Elite champions and pound for pounders don't get beaten senseless by Cool Vince and quit against Hatton.

Anyway, Tszyu is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

To stay on topic, if you're can't see that Bradley is skilled you need to watch fights a bit more closely.

 

Bradley is better at using his head than Tszyu, thats about it.

Tszyu was more accurate, had a better jab, more punch variety, better offensive footwork, was a better body puncher, ect.

 

Better offensive footwork and better body puncher? Tszyu was almost exclusively a head hunter, he almost never went to the body.

Tszyu was a basic jab/right hand fighter. Decent jab, pretty accurate, nice right hand but still a basic fighter. More punch variety? Not even close.

Bradley is faster, has better footwork, is more unpredictable, thinks about what he is doing more, is tougher, more versatile, a better boxer, and also has better workrate/stamina.

Tszyu has a better jab and more power, that's it.

Bradley would have beaten Tszyu.

 

Shiiiittt I would have never seen that prediction coming.

And tell Hurtado that Tszyu never went to the body.

Tszyu would have fucked Bradley up... BADLY!

And dont dare bring up Tszyu's two losses cause Hatton had the swarming style to beat Tszyu, and Philips had the firepower.

Timmy has neither. His only weapon is that oversized dome of his.

 

More punch variety? ::

 

Ummm.... yes.

Tszyu had a stiff jab, obviously the right hand, had an underrated left hook, and could throw deadly uppercuts with either hand.

What does Bradley throw really? His only punch is that WILD overhand right on his. His left hook is a SLAP.

 

IF you insist. I don't really watch Bradley fight. I just find it crazy that a Jab/Right hand fighter is being lauded for punch variety.

 

Tszyu's punch variety was better than Bradley's. His punching technique and accuracy is far, far better than Timmy's. Bradley doesn't snap and turn over enough shots, which results in slapping blows.

Bradley throws a nice jab to the body here and there that I don't recall see Tszyu using, and throws a winging overhand right that can be effective against taller guys. Tszyu has the better jab, his straight right hand is light years better, nice short uppercuts on the inside, better left hook, hard body shots (although I did like some of the body shots Tim landed against Peterson). I don't think Tszyu was quite as consistent though at going to the body (and throwing those uppercuts up close) as he could've been. They were in his arsenal though.

The way Tszyu folded Hurtado in half with bodywork was nice.

 

Come on...give me credit.

These are the kindest words I've written about Khoward to which I'm now dubbed a "Bradley hater."

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agREED on all accounts.

 

:: Yeah fair play you've actually been pretty cool with Khan lately (my post wasn't aimed towards you tbh). It is pretty funny how it's switched on you, I had to laugh when I saw you labelled a Bradley-hater considering our back and forths last year ::

 

Bradley better than Tszyu? hahahahahahahahahaha

 

Exactly. He was a jab/right hand fighter. His punch variety sucked, and he hardly ever went to the body, or did anything else apart from jab/right hand.

I absolutely love Carlos Monzon, but as effective as he was, he was essentially a jab/right hand fighter. Lauding his punch variety would be almost as stupid.

And by the way, yes Bradley IS better than Tyszu. By the time Bradley's career is over you'll see this, and he'll do better than 2-2 against the 4 best fighters he faces.

Bradley is borderline elite, Tszyu wasn't.

The only thing holding Bradley back from being a proper elite fighter is his lack of power. Although he has JUST enough power to stop most fighters at world level walking him down, someone like Pacquiao would just walk through him.

 

Tszyu is a first ballot Hall of Fame fighter...in your book what does that make Bradley? Should he retire tomorrow and we vote him in instantly?

 

cant really take anything this guy says about tszyu seriously.

 

Thats because the 4 best fighters he faces are infinitely inferior to the 4 best fighters Tszyu fought.

Hatton
Phillips
Mitchell
Judah

..............Judah, for openers, already beat Witter and beat him handier than Bradley did. Was Mitchell any worse than Alexander? I doubt it.

Tszyu also fought a sub-strata of good fighters like Oktay Urkal, Diobelys Hurtado, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Jake Rodriguez, Roger Mayweather, JC Chavez {albeit finished} and one of the Ruelas brothers.

 

That doesn't mean anything. Mickey Ward level fighters get into the HOF. Who cares?

My point is Bradley is better than Tszyu, which he is.

 

No doubt, that's why I said "faces". IE in the future.

Hatton and Judah are better than anyone Bradley has fought. My point is, after Alexander, Khan and let's say Maidana and Rios, that'll be Bradley's Hatton, Phillips, Mitchell and Judah. He'll go at least 3 to 1.

By the way the version of Witter Bradley beat was better than "The Shitter" the showed up to fight Judah. The Witter that fought Judah is one of the most pathetic fighters I've ever seen. Judah didn't even need to do anything, he just won by default.

 

Mex is an excellent poster but his hatred for Tszyu is legendary.

 

Khan and Maidana, maybe a Peterson, or a Rios, are his immediate future. That is not Hatton, Judah, Mitchell, MAG, not even close.

They were better than Bradley. Nevermind anyone Bradley fought.

It would be, if Alexander, Khan, Maidana and Rios were anywhere near as good as Hatton, Phillips Mitchell and Judah. Thats my point.

No. The first version of Witter was too green, the later version of Witter was past it. But I won't argue it to death, suffice it to say neither version was his prime. His prime may well have come and gone when he was still a "contender".

Witter was very green and came in on very short notice.

 

His take on Bradley being better than Tszyu downgrades him from the "excellent" category.

But I'm a "Bradley Hater" because I think he'll lose to Khoward and won't co-sign on him being a better fighter than Kostya.

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