Prime Dan Henderson vs Prime Randy Couture

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  1. BOSS

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    Who wins this fight and how ? Scheduled for 5 rounds @ 205
     
  2. TLC

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    Dan knocks 10 fighting years off Randy's fighting life.
     
  3. Anthony

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    This would be a dream match IMO. I dont even know who wins. Both have great wrestling. Couture was also an Olympic Alternate on a number of occasions. That and both these guys train together
     
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    You mean they trained together when they were both a part of Team Quest. Didn't Couture leave that behind quite some time ago?
     
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    Randy still Trains with Team Quest at times i believe. I know randy started his own Gym, but i believe these guys on occasion still train together. It was a few months ago, i was watching Inside MMA and they interviewed Randy at one of the Team Quest camps.
     
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    i pick couture.
     
  7. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    So do I, if we are talking Primes here. The Randy that beat Chuck, Vitor and Tito would beat Hendo.
     
  8. Anthony

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    Hendo would have beaten them too
     
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    didnt he already beat vitor in pride?

    i dont think henderson would've beaten lidell.
     
  10. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yep, he did. About 3-4 years after Chuck, Randy and Tito beat him.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Randy beat him back in 97 by TKO as well. Forgot about that one.
     
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    Henderson is much better than Liddell
     
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    yea that was a great upset at the time. belfort was beating up tank abbott and that other fat guy and everyone thought he was the truth.
     
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    not sure if there's a single guy that henderson beat that lidell couldnt have beaten with an exception of minatoro. it's arguable that henderson could have beaten lidell, but i wouldnt go as far as saying he's MUCH better.
     
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    I don't think Hendo was better than Chuck at all.
     
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    That said, I'm changing my pick to Couture.

    It's tough though, because Prime Couture didn't have much in terms of subs, and Hendo obviously has a huge right hand that could land at any point in the 25 minutes.

    But Randy is the bigger dude, better wrestler and had better cardio. I think he wears Henderson down for a trademark UD win.
     
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    Im not basing that on who beat who, im basing it on their overall talent. Talent wise, Henderson has more tools. THAT being said, i dont see Chuck beating Renzo or Pride's Wandy. I especially dont see Chuck beating the wandy that beat Sakuraba.
     
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    You have been wrong before.
     
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    Henderson is a better wrestler than Randy. His olympic background proves this. Two Times Hendo has been to the olympics. Randy could only get alternate.
     
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    :lol:

    So Wandy became shot in 10 months?
     
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    It doesn't prove shit. Hendo has been outwrestled so many times in his career it's ridiculous.
     
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    You can't see Chuck Liddell beating Renzo Gracie? Really? I'm certainly no Liddell fan, but Chuck would easily avoid Renzo's take downs and brutally knock him out.

    Also, Dan lost to Wanderlei by decision when Silva was at his peak. He did KO him one fight AFTER Silva beefed up for the Open Weight Grand Prix and got the shit knocked out of him by Cro Cop.
     
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    I cant believe anyone would compare Chuck's one dimentional ass to Hendo's and have Chuck ahead.
     
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    One dimensional isn't really all that bad when you force everyone into your game.

    And Chuck by far had the greater career.
     
  25. Anthony

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    How has chuck had a better career? Henderson has accomplished more and had beat better competition.
     
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    I could see Henderson/Liddell going both ways. Henderson could catch him with a right, or maybe bring the same game plan Rampage brought against Chuck. The fight could also look like Liddell/Couture 2 and 3. It's not exactly a no brainer pick here. Neither are the greatest boxers, but have big power. Hendo has great wrestling, Chuck has great take down defense.
     
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    Anyone think Jake Shields would out wrestle Couture?
     
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    Thats fair, but you have to admit Hendo has had the better career.
     
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    Chuck was more dominant when he was UFC champ then Hendo ever was. Does Hendo have a string of KO's as impressive as the list below?

    Tito
    Vernon White
    Couture
    Horn
    Couture again
    Babalu
    Tito again.

    7 KO title defenses in a row.
     
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    Of course this was all sandwiched in between his two losses to Rampage. Who Hendo also lost to.
     

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