Posterboy for "shotness"

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  1. Buddy Rydell

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    My "sarcasm" was pretty obvious, I blame you and Trpl's lack of brain cells.

    I admit I'm somewhat of a Chuck hater (well actually I respect him for the huge amount of success he had with minimal talent), but even I know he is/was completely shot. I just find it amusing that even a prime Chuck basically just threw dead weight retard punches and defended takedowns.
     
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    Chill Buddy, I was just kidding.
     
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    By the way June, you're wrong. I quite like ass clowns.
     
  5. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I really don't care if you like Chuck or not, doesn't bother me one bit. You making this personal does bother me. Now say sorry or I will kick you in the fucking vagina.
     
  6. BOSS

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    Cro Cop is not so much shot as he is in over his head with today's heavyweights. He was good for his time just like many other pride fighters.
     
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    Sorry Z, but your threat carries no weight, for I don't have a vagina, only a nice big Jewish penis.

    Now stop your whining or I really shall hunt you down and suck out one of your eyes.

    Oh and BOSS, that's fucking nonsense. Just watch one of cro cop's Pride fights from a few years ago. Completely different fighter. He was an excellent striker, faster, sharper, and less gun shy.
     
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    and on roids.
     
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    not sure if spelling my name out that way was supposed to be insulting. if so, none taken. many koreans spell their name that way.
     
  10. BOSS

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    So a pride Cro Cop wins the UFC heavyweight title if he fights in the UFC today ?
     
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    who knows. he also seemed like he was very uncomfortable fighting in the cage.
     
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    Promise? :clapagain:
     
  13. TLC

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    If by a lot of people you mean Chuck and Shogun then I agree.
     
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  15. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Yep...... Except, you're the one resorting to name calling. And I'm the one with the questionable IQ?

    :nono:
     
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    Not even close. He doesnt fight anything like he used to. Shot as hell.
     
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    Why not? I could definately see him smashing Cain standing.
     
  18. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    A pride Cro Cop gets mauled by Cain.

    Hell, Shane Carwin probably beats him.


    Actually, even mid-tier guys like Gabe Gonzaga would probably knock him silly....o wait.
     
  19. Bob N Weave

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    You are nuts.
     
  20. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Not really. Cain is better now than Cro Cop ever was.

    Carwin is just a terrible matchup for him.

    And it isn't as if Gonzaga didn't nearly kill Cro Cop.

    Again, I've heard sentiments that Cro Cop is probably an all time level overrated fighter and topics like this are exactly why it his some legitimacy. The dude isn't dominating shit, in any era ever. He's just not that good nor consistent. Even in his prime he has losses to guys like Randleman, Mark Hunt, Gabriel Gonzaga. A bunch of mediocre fighters.

    The only reason why he's so overrated is because his fanboys can get over the fact that he kicks guys in the head and has an exciting style.
     
  21. Bob N Weave

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    We need to add this to the TLC collection.
     
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    I agree with TLC
     
  24. TLC

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    Of factual information. Right.
     
  25. Bob N Weave

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    Explain how it is factual.
     
  26. TLC

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    1: Cain is a multi-talented, well rounded undefeated champion and a consensus number 1 HW in the world. Not only was Cro Cop not a number 1 HW, he never even won a major world title, too busy being knocked out by Kevin Randleman during the middle of win streaks.

    2: Cro Cop struggled mightily with big fighters, especially when they applied pressure on him. Hunt and Kongo are perfect examples. Both are absolutely mediocre fighters at the most generous of ratings, yet beat up Cro Cop.
    Cro Cop didn't have a great chin either, it wasn't glass but a guy like Shane Carwin could easily knock him out from either ground and pound or in the clinch, and Carwin would take him down at will.

    The rest of the post isn't subjective so no need for explanation.
     
  27. Bob N Weave

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    Not even going there. You are damaged goods now.
     
  28. TLC

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    :lol:

    Don't be sad because you know it is true.
     
  29. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I do like the suggestion though that somehow this batch of HWs is just worse or something than the last that Cro Cop would be the best HW in the sport apparently if he was in his prime now.

    As if, somehow in some weird way, the likes of Mir, Overeem, Cain, Lesnar, Dos Santos, Werdum, Carwin are somehow worse than the likes of Gonzaga, Hunt and Randleman. Or even CC's best wins, Igor and young Barnett.

    It's almost as if this new craze that's come into the HW division as of late, grappling, would be a terrible idea against Cro Cop.
    That and actually weighing in close to the maximum.
    That and having more than one skill(except Lesnar)
    :lol:
     
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    No one knows if he would be the best currently, but I giarantee you that a prime Crocop would have a great chance at beating anyone in the UFC HW division today, and to deny that is just foolish.

    People forget how good Crocops TDD was in his prime.
     

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