Will Shane Mosley shock the world and KO Manny Pac?

Duran is bigger than Pacquiao.

Duran was a fairly solidly built 5'7.

Pacquiao is a ripped 5'5 featherweight.

If they met at 135, Duran would look the bigger man.

 

Nope after 4 round mosley will be oldsley

 

REED DID have a tape measure handy, so you STFU, you mook.

When Duran could no longer make 135 and was fighting at middleweight, what was he, a natural middleweight?

Please tell me you're not that fucking stupid.

At one point Roy could no longer make 168, that doesn't make him anything more than a natural super middle.

How long have you been watching boxing, 6 months?

 

You absolute fucking idiot.

Tito beat DLH? No he didn't. He plodded around the ring like the lead footed left hooker he was, getting outboxed with ease. Vargas? Vargas wasn't an elite fighter. All Manny's best opponents are much better than Vargas. And I say this as a Vargas fan.

You clearly have the IQ of a fencepost and are obviously very bitter than Manny has been sodomising all your Mexican idols.

Now go and punch yourself in the face for your insolence, scrub.

 

if they met at 135lbs, pacquiao would be the same weight as duran if not more.

 

Manny is not 5'5. Only you and a guestimation by REED puts him at 5'5.


Didn't I tell you to stop calling Manny a featherweight?

 

Oh so your telling me Manny let REED take a measurements of him?:atu:

When Duran could no longer make 135, he wasn't a lightweight anymore ya dumb son of a bitch.

When Roy couldn't make 168 anymore, guess what? He wasn't a super middleweight fighter anymore ya stupid fuck.

When you can't make a certain weightclass anymore, you cease being a fighter in said weightclass.

 

Hmm, last time I checked, three judges said Tito won. Whether I believe DLH was robbed or not is irrelevant. YOU said Tito never beat a elite prime fighter. He actually beat two.

Vargas was undefeated coming off wins against Marquez, Winky and Quartey, that makes him pretty fucking elite stupid fuck.

You think I'm bitter which is some dumb reverse race card shit but why is it that I don't have a problem with any other Manny fans except you. You should take a good look in the fucking mirror and ask yourself that.

It's because your a delunsional Manny fanboy who believes he's 5'5 by someone's estimation that stood next to him once and you believe he's a fucking Featherweight when the fucking guy probably can't even make 140. That makes you a stupid motherfucker and I can't stand delisional grown ass men who become stupid motherfuckers because of the admiration of another grown ass man.

In short, grow up.

 

:love:

 

Wow, aren't you a prickly prick.

 

Only with stupid ass fanboys.:Thumbs:

 

IMO when you make a weight class by cutting 10% of your body weight in water to make it, you aren't a natural at that weight class at all. I doubt Pac has weighed 135 since his days at 122.

 

I don't get this Mosley fandom, the guy could barely perform in his last fight against a bum and now maybe he's going to beat the best pound for pound fighter at his own game of brawling? I don't think so. Mosley gets stopped for the first time in his career and I'm sorry to say he's going to takea hellacious beating to boot.

Only person I think could beat Manny is Floyd. Because unlike everyone else Pac has beaten, Floyd never has and never would say this line "Manny has never felt MY power." Hatton said that shit, Cotto said that shit, Margarito said that shit, and now Shane has said that shit. None of the seem to realize that Manny is the one who's power THEY have never felt and they all seemed to think they'll hit Pac harder than the last guy and it'll make some kind of difference.

That's why I give Floyd the best chance of beating Pac, because he'd fight Manny with defense, boxing, and intelligence and not go in there looking to try to beat Manny at Manny's game, which everyone else has failed to do.

So why some of you think a severly over the hill brawler is going to beat todays best brawler is beyond me. Shane's going to get fucked up just like the rest of them.

 

Look MWS, Tito may have a worse resume' than Pac, and maybe he technically never beat an elite guy, but styles make fights and based on the styles I have to give Tito a huge chance of beating Manny.

In fact I think the welter version of Tito who was patient, a very good boxer, and very good at figuring out his opponents would stop Manny. Tito only lost to guys who boxed his socks off, but guys like Manny who stood and traded with Tito always got stopped. I think Tito's power would be too much for Manny and eventually he'd wilt to it.

I'd also pick Tito over Margarito and Cotto, and he'd obviously have a punchers chance against Floyd based on his power.

 

exactly, the guy was never a natural featherweight in comparison to fighters like duran or anyone before him. he was probably fighting at 126lbs during his last few flyweight bouts.

 

Agreed!:bears:

 

Tito would get totally ass raped by floyd..

but i agree he'd stretch pac

 

I hate to bring up the pink elephant in the room here, but when it comes to Trinidad, and match-ups against the likes of PBF and Pacquiao, are we talking about the Trinidad with illegal hand-wraps, who permanently damaged both Vargas and David Reid, or are we talking about the one who fought Winky Wright? You know, the one who couldn't penetrate Wright's guard, let alone do any damage?

 

:wack: Double just let it go.

 

Floyd, Pac, and Duran would all beat the living shit out of Tito at 147. Trinidad really gets overrated.

I would take Tito over Margarito, Cotto-Trinidad is more of a toss up but I'd probably go with Tito there as well.

 

Abso-fucking-lutely.

When are people going to realise that while Trinidad was an elite puncher with a brilliant left hook etc, he was NOT by any means an elite fighter.

Much like Mosley, he fell short against elite opposition, though Mosley actually has a better win than Tito, legitimately beating a still prime Oscar.

lb4lb, what's all this standing toe to toe business? Manny wouldn't stand toe to toe with Tito, are you crazy? He has completely changed his style against the bigger men, even against Oscar. He zips around the ring like a Mongoose now, strafing the bigger, lumbering welterweights from all angles.

He'd make Trinidad look like a fucking oaf with weights tied to his feet.

Floyd would make Tito look like an amateur too.

 

You have to take the simplistic view that Pac went to war with Morales. Therefore he'd fight the exact same fight against Trinidad. Also Tito hits harder than Erik therefore Manny gets knocked out.

 

Cotto, Margarito, Clottey all landed on Pacquiao...why not TRINIDAD??? For all his skills and greatness PACQUIAO does get HIT A LOT...a prime Trinidad even before moving up to 147 threw every punch in the book and kept coming...Pac might surprise Trinidad and knock him down early...but Trinidad get up start throwing the jab follow by a right...throw in a hook or an uppercut and it won't take much to get Pacquiao dancing....Pac will try to tap his gloves and show he isn't hurt but his legs will be telling the real story..

 

Pac isn't going to WAR with anybody...he will use his speed and angles just like he did vs. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey...and at the end HE won those fights EASILY....but he still got tag plenty himself....

 

Cotto has much superior footwork to Tito and Margarito is much more aggressive. Tito had to have his feet planted to punch. Manny would be turning him constantly. Obviously Trinidad would land some punches but this is not Mike Tyson vs Ricardo Lopez where he lands one shot and the fight is over.

 

I'd like to know how would the great Terry Norris do against Pacquiao

 

Better than Tito would, but i'd pick Trinidad 9 times out of 10 against Norris.

 

What is it exactly I need to let go? The fact Trinidad's career was a dichotomy of success and failure, delineated nearly exactly by the discovery of his illegally wrapped gloves? With the first, successful portion of his career characterized by grotesque beatings administered to the likes of Thiam, Joppy and Vargas, and having put ODH on the run unlike any other (including Hopkins and Pacquiao), but then appearing nearly castrated and in danger of being stopped against the likes of Wright? And having to hit Mayorga with everything but the kitchen sink before he'd go down from a body-shot? And how about a szchizo-freako-looking father trainer, obviously the arbiter of the plaster,walking nervously with pseudo-humility into the ring, accepting that his son would soon commit illegal assault on his opponents who if not for his felony would no doubt lose his contests?

Sloppy Joe was a glove loader too, btw.

 

Not even going to address the bolded part because it is opinion being written as fact. And the fact of the matter is Trinidad gets underrated much more than he gets overrated.

Only reason he gets considered overrated is because people love to toss out the bullshit myth that Tito never beat an elite fighter even though he has a win over ODLH whether people agree with the decision or not. Also his defeats of three long time champions with multiple title defenses in Joppy, Reid and Vargas gets completely glossed over and ignored so people can point out the fact he lost to Hopkins and Wright even though against Wright he'd been off for a couple years and didn't even take a tune up. The fact is the only guys to beat Tito were world class defensive boxers in B-Hop (one of the best ever) and Wright. Of course RJJ too, but that loss can be explained away too as it was another long lay off and way out of Tito's weight class.

Let's also not forget that Tito held and defended his welterweight title for several undefeated years, but because he lost to one of the best middleweights ever and got dominated after a comeback against a tight defense, people want to nitpick and call the guy overrated.

Fucking ridiculous.