Pascal demands Hopkins to take a doping test

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Are you from Poland?

 

Hopkins is a born and bred cheat and law-breaker. He has a history of breaking the law and of cheating.

For fucks sake, I mean, is it too much to ask to deal with intelligent people here?

Is Hopkins on gear? Who knows.

But one thing is for sure.......this attempt to paint Hopkins as some sort of pure-as-the-driven-snow merchant is preposterous. He was a cheat and short-cut merchant outside the ring and now he is a cheat and short-cut merchant inside the ring. He keeps the company of thieves and corrupt fiends.

Maybe Hopkins is drinking cranberry juice and is working out regular. :boohoo:

 

I hope Pascal knocks him out this time around. I truly hate Hopkins thug attitude.

 

They don't drink lucozade in Poland.:nono:

 

They guy is an utter gangster. How many times do you think Oscar or Schafter would let Bernard come down to their house?

 

Lol, I was on about his spelling of English words .

 

They drink Soda-Popinski in Poland.

 

this, Hopkins' reaction is a dead giveaway imo. He's put on a lot of muscle at an advanced age, is ripped to shreds, and still performing like a much younger man. Part of that can be attributed to his skill level, discipline, and training habits.. but it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. And this is coming from a Hopkins fan.

Having said that, if Hopkins WAS doping, I would think EPO would be the first item on his grocery list. And he doesn't fight like he's on EPO at ALL.

 

Interesting..........

 

Pascal is hardly the first person to accuse Hopkins of being on roids, though. That claim has buzzed around the industry for years.

Plus, it's not like Pascal is refusing to fight him. He's basically asking/demanding to know why Hopkins wouldn't want to take the tests, especially given his company's alleged stance on the issue this time last year.

 

If Hopkins is doping, then he has married his undoubted skills and efficiency with the doping, rather than trying to re-style himself into a volume-puncher, something which he never was in the past. Hopkins figures that if he can be present for 12 rounds, he can win. He then relies on picking his shots for this distance.

 

Hops was a much more active (as in, in the ring) fighter in the 90s and early 00s imo.

But like I said, it really wouldn't surprise me.

 

He turned into a pot-shotter as he got older. He knows that reverting to a more active style would get him noticed for all the wrong reasons. Also EPO is in the news, thanks to Mosley and other athletes.

Believe me when I tell you that there is a product out there that guys are using which they haven't even created a test for yet.

 

You're such a mystery. ::

 

I think it is pretty obvious that I was referring to olympic-style testing and not a single test.

 

While I agree with much of this, I do not fault Floyd for not going through with the fight the way it went down. Floyd doesn't want to lose his zero and I think he is smart enough to know that a juiced Pacquiao can take his zero.

 

With all the PED talk in the last few years, why is it up to the fighters to demand other fighters take sufficient tests? It's time for the AC's to wake up and change the damn rules. It's as simple as that. I just can't feel bad for any fighter crying because they think another fighter is on something, if they really cared they would be going to the AC's. The AC's need to do their damn job and protect the fighters. Why is it up to the fighters and promoters to negotiate testing? Are you kidding me? They should never have to even think about that kind of stuff. Now we have certain testing written into contracts? it's a joke.

 

So it's proven that Pac is on something now?

 

Wordplay aside, its like.......living in Nagasaki, surviving the bomb, not know what it was but know it existed nonetheless.

These guys are on something. We just don't know what it is yet. But we know it is out there.

 

That's more a function of inefficiencies in testing heuristics than it is a function of the ability of underground labs to make amazing products. Even BALCO's much vaunted "Creme and Clear" was basically just subdermal testosterone combined with an oral anabolic. Not exactly the stuff of science fiction.

 

But that could be it.....Medical science is running around looking for stuff, and its all flying under the radar. The simpler it is, the less likely complex testing is to pick it up.

As I say, its just so unlikely that somebody somewhere hasn't picked up on some elixir which is going undetected.

Or, it could simply be a question of money. Pay up and get away.

 

I was looking at it from Floyd's pov.

However, Pacquiao proved it when he turned down $40 million rather than get tested. Your ilk wishes to ignore that fact as being sufficient proof; the rest of us don't.

 

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Pascal STUNG his arse,.. that one hit very, very close to home ofcourse. There's alot to irrepairably hate Mayweather for, but the lone thing he did do, has had a very positive influence on boxing,..rats are being flushed out every month, this time, it was the biggest rat of all, king of the shit-heap, Bernard Hopkins. If I were Pascal, I'd have someone supervise Hopkins from the moment he wraps his hands, and watch him all the way into the ring,....as advanced ped cocktails aren't the only 'cunning trick' Hopkins possesses. To quote Hopkins 'legendary, ageless' philosophy on boxing.. "It's only cheating, if you get caught".

 

ray:ray:ray::love:

 

I don´t understand what you are trying to say?

 

This is true, but keep in mind what it signals. It means that there are people out there who intimately know the most recent testing processes of the best testing agencies in the world and are willing to participate in the search for ways to beat them. It also means that you had organic chemists not only looking for testosterone analogs that perform well (supposedly THG was 10x as potent as many other similar anabolic steroids), are easy to administer (sublingual actually worked with THG in addition to injection), and have very specific chemical properties (e.g. in this case a decomposition temperature).

That is in most all ways exactly how the pharmaceutical industry goes about synthesizing novel drugs. They are looking for just the right chem that has just the right physical properties. Of course, they actually do clinical tests before shooting people in the ass with a syringe. Usually.

My point is just that although it may seem like simple hydrogenation of an existing anabolic is not anything particularly special, if you put the whole process together it really is something unrivaled in terms of modern performance enhancing drugs. It basically PROVES, for all time, that it really isn't all that difficult to work up a synth, make the drug in large quantities, and then cheat for 5-10 years on a world championship scale without anyone knowing. This leads me to believe that there are certainly other such substances being used by athletes today.

On a finishing note, if you look at how the world's smartest and greatest law enforcement and testing agencies ended up finding out about the drug, you will probably end up seeing things as even more bleak as it took a rat sending a syringe full of the damn thing to the USADA before they even had a CLUE what was going on.

Honestly, this shit just kills me. I have been over this 1,000 times and I simply cannot see a way (given human nature) that we will ever again have truly "fair" athletic competitions at the championship level. The practical part of me seriously muses about whether or not we should just say "Since you're all doing it anyway, you fuckups, we are now ceasing all testing, go ahead and wreck the shit out of your bones, joints, muscles, kidneys, hearts, livers, brains, and of course your tiny testicles, and may the best juicer win."

I suppose that would be more "fair".