"Yeah he just did another cycle" :nono: Again, the hypocrite fighter bashes then cries when someone retorts. I'm playing the world's smallest violin right about now.
Exactly. How is stating the obvious qualify as bashing? And to start a thread about it. Man you are working way too hard.
I was wondering what this was all about and then I noticed the other thread was closed. Who closed it? That's crap. But back to the topic of this thread, calling a fighter overated is bashing him but accusing him of using steroids despite NEVER being busted isn't? Both seem like negative slams to me. When I posted the pic of a 205 Overeem and mentioned how roided up he looked now, I didn't mean it positively.
STD you are the most notorious fighter basher on fightbeat ad infinitum. You praise none but a select few. Youve even ridiculed Roy Jones Jr for crying out loud. Reem is a juicer. Period. Deal with it. Its well known in the fight community. For you to start a thread about other people fighter bashing, is like Jeffrey Dahmer offering therapy to families of homicide victims......
OK Trp get over the act. I dont know what you and TLC have cooked up but you guys are obviously out to troll shit up. EVERYONE knows that Overeem is juicing. Its painfully obvious. If you want to turn a blind eye to it do as your wish, it definately takes away from your credibility with me though. Assuming that Reem is roiding isnt bashing him in the least. Is is simply an observation that 90% of the MMA world concurs with and voice their opinion about it. And it is obvious to me that you two want to keep the infectious negativity going by posting and feeding this thread. Get over it, you are wasting valuable energy.
Dude, before you jump on my back, please READ my post. In this thread and the other I clearly indicated my thoughts about Overeem and steroids. That conflicts MADLY with TLC. But saying Overeem is juicing is still bashing him. I have no problem with bashing fighters that I don't like or think are overrated. So this isn't really negative to me.
No it isnt bashing him. Read the post. He has obviously been growing at an alarming rate over the last few years. The thread was DIRECTLY dealing with the size of fighters. Stating that a particular fighter is bigger now most likely from the use of a PED is NOT bash ing that fighter. It is just stating a probability.
No trip. Diminishing every achievement of ever fighter from every generation every organization is fighter bashing. TLC is the human in the world that does this. Bob is right. Reems cycles are assumed by all. Its not bashing. TLC called Lesanr a juicer in the previous thread. Which coming from him is a compliment....
Simply put, I think saying a guy uses steroids until he's been busted is a slam. It puts into question almost every fight he's had over the last 3-4 years. Personally I would drop dead shocked if it turned out he was clean the whole time. But it's still bashing him until it's proven. And remember, you guys aren't saying "it's likely" or "seems likely" that his using. You are making it sound like a proven fact. I am firmly in the boat that says he is juicing. I say I feel 100% sure that he's a juicer. And yes, damn it, I am bashing him as a result.
Bashing is insulting a fighter. Speculating that a fighter has been roiding is not insulting him. Spin it any way you want TRP I am going to disagree with you.
I agree. And TLC and I have battled on many of his insane claims. Nick Diaz being mediocre is the most recent. Unreal. That being said, there's no way you accuse a fighter of using steroids and then say it isn't a negative comment. Sorry.
That's fine. I just think a negative comment about a fighter is bashing him. We can disagree without me calling you a keyboard tough guy.
Shame on you Trp for associating TLC's incessant bashing with my assuming that Overeem has used Peds. Pretty ridiculous.
Man, I agree with him on one single point and I'm a leper. No, your singular bashing of Overeem on one single topic does NOT equate AT ALL with TLC's propensity to bash every single fighter not named Aoki or Overeem. Not even close. I am just saying that accusing someone of using steroids is a negative comment. That's all. :blackcloud:
Yet you only said this after I mentioned that you were WRONG about Overeem's weight. Cheap cop out, and a bullshit excuse. As per usual with you. Your cheap retort "Oh he put on weight by doing steroids" was completely irrelevant to the discussion but you just had to do anything to try to diminish Overeem and hype up Jones. :doh:
That's my point. When I say Overeem is juicing, I fully intend for it to be considered bashing him. When I say Aoki was exposed by Melendez, I fully intend for it to be considered bashing him. The point everyone else is making, and it's legit, is that TLC rarely does anything but bash fighters not name Overeem or Aoki (And perhaps Rua). This is really high school type stuff, but I'm bored. Just saying.
