Boxrec Top 10 American Welterweights.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr, ATT {"Active Thru Tax"}

2. Shane Mosley 39, PEDmeister, ATD {"Active Thru Divorce"}

3. Andre Berto. {Geography Fail}

4. Victor Ortiz {former 140lb burnout}

5. Mike Jones

6. Mike Alvarado

7. Randall Bailey {former 140lb burnout}

8. Brad Solomon, KO Artist.

9. Paul Malignaggi, {Former 140lb burnout, Hatton victim, Khan victim}

10. Shawn Porter.

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and here is Ireland's Extensive Lists of Top Welterweights

 

Irish hates welterweights.

 

We are all picking potatoes in the NPL- the National Potato League. Ever since it turned pro and offered mad cash last year, the fist-fighting has stopped and the potato-picking has begun in earnest. All the natural 147lb kids can now be found in fields with clay under their nails. They have swapped the heavy bag for the potato bag.

 

A 6'6, 250lb Berto would be the best heavyweight in the world by far.

 

True, but 5'9, 147 lbs Vitali Klitshko would destroy Manny and Floyd

 

Well lets see:

1. Floyd Mayweather- legitimately talented fighter, perhaps the best natural talent since Roy Jones. But he is not interested in the biggest fight out there to be made. He also started his career at 130.

2. Sugar Shane. 39. Balco implicated. He's a good guy and I am grateful to him for bashing Margacheato, but he is coming off a loss- a decision loss- to Floyd, and that draw. He only gets the Pac fight because Floyd won't take it. Guy has won 2 of his last 5.

3. Andre Berto. Is from Haiti. Not America. Is also,for what it is worth, on the receiving end of a lot of criticism for his comp.

4. Victor Ortiz? Just got a draw in his last fight, is a noted quitter and was basically run out of 140 pretty much the same way Judah was 10 years ago.

5. Mike Jones- solid prospect, had a few hiccups, remains promising.

6. Mike Alvarado- again, a solid prospect.

7. Randall Bailey. Oh dear.

8. Brad Solomon- has no power, seems an efficient rather than dazzling fighter. COuld be a talent but where is the excitement?

9. Paul Malignaggi. I mean............How does a non-punching guy who was badly found out at 140, albeit by the best/better fighters, move up a division where he will be facing even bigger guys, and get a top 10 ranking????

10. Shawn Porter :dunno:

 

And a 6'6" 250lb Collazo would be running him close. And people would be complaining.

 

:crying:

 

Can you imagine what they'd do once Vitali implemented his Fat Joe "lean back" defense?

It'd be like Pazienza trying to land a punch on Roy Jones.

 

Berto was born in the US. Miami FL to be exact. How is he not an American?

 

Who said that at 5'9" and 147lbs that he would have a lean-back defence??

 

That's right. He'd beat them with hand speed.

 

Well his hands would be faster if he weighed less, no??? Is it not a general rule of boxing that smaller lighter men exhibit better speed and coordination?

Or have Americans departed from even the most basic tenets of physics in order to embrace their Glen Beckisms more forcefully??

 

Don't forget that a midget Vitali would lean back 20 times faster than he does now. Also, since he now throws 80 punches per round, at welter I see him throwing 240. Also, he can not be hurt. How is Floyd gonna beat that?:hammert:

 

Exactly how much more hand speed are you planning on giving him at 147? ::

 

The same way he will beat Manny. In the newspapers.

 

:laughing:

I can't stop laughing picturing that.

 

As little as possible. I want to keep these fights competitive.

 

You are on fire today. :bow::bow:

 

Don't overrate him. Its only Mitchell he is smacking around right now. As soon as BWJ and s_d show up, things gone change.

 

Yeah, yeah...Vitali's going to lose almost a foot of height and suddenly become Pacquiao in the speed department.

 

Why does he need to be Pacquaio?

For the purposes of this little American-Boxing-History-X experiment, it will suffice that he has Andre Berto footspeed.

After all, Berto has that HBO PPV feel to him.

A few diamond encrusted time-pieces and bad suits, and Vitali should be about ready to go.

 

Still trying too hard or not hard enough.

 

Not a chance. Vitali without his size advantage is a .500 fighter at best.

 

No, the size slows him down and decreases his stamina. Also, if his arms were not that heavy, he could throw technically perfect shots

 

I'd say Vitali's record would look something like Eric Crumble's if not for his advantage is size.

 

According to my analysis he would be a Sugar Ray Leonard with a punch if he didn't suffer for his size

 

Fair. I guess we'll never know. I'd liken him more to a less durable Crumble.

 

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A Welterweight version of VITALY??? KERMIT CINTRON with more heart...