Greater package of fighters

Greater historically doesn't have anything to do with if Whitaker would have beaten all of the others. I think he would have beaten all of them except Pacquiao.

Great talent. Crappy resume.

 

Doubtful given the era, but maybe you're right, but he also had like a dozen loses with some of them absolute beatdowns to guys that weren't championship level.

Certainly you can see the difference. Right?

 

Whitaker has a win over Mayweather so that trumps EVERYBODY. I know boxing.

 

He lost 11, of which one was a stoppage.

He also turned pro at the age of 16 and was still a teenager IIRC when he was losing fights.

Most of his losses were avenged.

He beat more Hall of Famers than any other fighter.

 

Well, I am too lazy to check BoxRec's. But seriously? Hall of Famers? Isn't that a silly stat considering Whitaker is a modern fighter and McLarnin fought in the 20's and 30's...

But it doesn't really matter. I consider McLarnin one of the top 5-7 WW's of All Time, and I rank Whitaker just a little higher at 135-140 so I'm glad their resumes stack up.

Really not sure the point.

 

WOAH!!! .....you.......:scared2: ......you.......don't think that....the 20's and 30's were all that and then some??

First off, I think it was Herb Goldman and Bert Sugar who said he beat more HOF'rs

I think Whittaker was a really great fighter.

 

Whitaker could've schooled Pacquiao with 2 broken knees and both hands tied behind his back.

 

I thought the David Diaz fight was better than several of those (and the most underrated fight of 2007), and a case to be made that Morales deserved to win. But even if it's not in his Top 10, just goes to show how deep his credentials run in terms of quality AND excitement.

 

never saw that one to be honest. i should probably watch it on youtube.

 

I think the reason it gets such little play was that it was on a Top Rank PPV on the same night as Vazquez-Marquez II.

 

Probably not. Morales schooled him, but lost his legs after 5-6 rounds, at which point Diaz started to control the fight by mauling and wrestling with Morales for the remainder of the fight. Not sure what was so great about the fight?

In the end Morales lost a controversial decision, because the fighht was in Diaz´ hometown and Arum had turned his back on Morales. Afterwards Diaz talked down to Morales and thanked his hometown fans, who buried him under an avalanche of boos. I was very happy that Arum fed that bum Diaz to Manny, who gave the disrespectful cunt a proper beat down.

This might all be selective memory, but that´s how I remember it. Never watched that fight again and I don´t see a reason why any Morales fans would. Not only was Morales beaten by an inferior fighter, but the guy couldn´t even do it convincingly and bragged about it afterwards.

 

yup and i just didnt have the confidence in morales at that point to go out of my way to watch. i was concerned with the possibility that he'd get whipped by a chump like diaz. after hearing he probably deserved the decision i was too disgusted to watch. if he had gotten that nod, and against maidana he'd be in line for a shot at a 5th division title.

 

Maybe I was influenced by the crowd, being there live. Joony and I were in press row, and nearly everyone there gave it a standing ovation at the end. But it's possible that it looks far less entertaining on TV. Has happened to me before.

Also, the reason Arum turned his back on Morales was because he was extremely disrespectful to everyone (including Diaz and Arum himself) at the post-fight press conference and believed that the deck was deliberately stacked against him.

This despite the fact that he was fighting for Diaz' (paper) title, yet received top billing throughout the promotion It was sold as Morales v. Diaz and every facet of it basically offered Diaz - the hometown fighter - as "that guy fighting Morales" while Arum and the WBC were hoping and praying for Morales to be Mexico's first ever four-division champ.

 

well at that point arum couldnt sell a fourth morales pacquiao fight

 

Yes he wanted to give that loser Diaz some credibility, so he could eventually feed him to his new star Pacquiao.