The Boilermaker and The Blockbuster...

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  1. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Jeffries up against Marciano, what do you see happening? This would be very up-tempo, exciting boxing, IMO.
     
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    Marciano would have annihilated Jim Jeffries

    Maybe Jeffries is game enough to get hammered with punches for a few rounds, but that is as long as it goes... No fighter from the era where a jab and bobbing and weaving were mystical, otherworldly skills possessed only by beings from another dimension and combination punching was a strange product of demonic properties has any business being in the ring with a rocky Marciano...

    Rocky balboa maybe...
     
  3. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I see Jeffries earning a close decision in a great, great skirmish. It would be a titanic clash of wills & grit. Jeffries has the size & probably even the stamina advantage, & these would be factors. I'd salivate to see Marciano's response to the vaunted left hook underneath Jeffries used to bully & shake his best rivals. Marciano was tougher to nail clean, a little dirtier, & the harder single-shot puncher. Jeffries would easily be the stronger man, & at close-quarters, that would be beneficial doubtless.

    I think 8-6-1 on the cards, or thereabouts. Over fifteen rounds, these guys would really turn up the heat, being so tireless.
     
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    Marciano would knock Jeffries the fuck out.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Let's be honest here, Jefferies couldn't even box.
     
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    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Yeah, Ramone, seriously?
     
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    Exactly!

    It's not even worth discussing.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Ramone's losing it...

    He's still my boy, but he must have been drunk when he posted this.
     
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    Jeffries would get killed by far lesser heavyweights than Marciano
     
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    Julius Francis would dominate Jim Jefferies
     
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    Seriously... Joe Mesi hammers Jim Jeffries
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This thread makes all the years I have spent here worth it
     
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  14. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I would ask everyone here the same thing, actually.
     
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    Jeffries was big, but not Valuev big.

    He could hold on inside and not much else. Marciano takes him apart.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He could hold inside and not much else? That would be news to Jeffries' opponents, as well as those who watched him live.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    If they saw Julius Francis fight live they'd probably think he was Ares himself, mate. Things progressed rather allot between 1895 and 1955.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I disagree the fight is in any way some kind of mismatch. There just isn't anything to bear that out.
     
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    For real, I know enough about modern boxing that I'd make MYSELF even money with Jeffries.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Rather to those who know Jeffries only from history books. Youtube has burst plenty of bubbles of the past. Watching the tapes it becomes perfectly clear why a 35-year old, 185 lbs Jim Corbett outboxed him for 22 rounds
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I assume you imagine hand-cranked films and hi-def TV are one in the same in their presentation of fighters. I have been laughed at on this board for suggesting Leonard was a great match for Duran. Who picks Leonard as the greater LW head-to-head? Only Ray Arcel, the man who trained both, but what does he know about Boxing? The common thread between that fight and this one is no one can articulate why one fighter is so other-worldly superior, and thats because no such distinction exists.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Mainly because according to other sources of that day and what videos seem to confirm. Which is that boxing technique back then was so inferior compared to the one that was used in 50s. According to a boxing historians (if you have better information, fill me in) Jim Corbett introduced a new technique, left hook. Also Corbett's straight shots and slipping punches were, again, according to sources, what stopped John L. Sullivan, because such style was revolutionary. And this smaller guy, years after his prime, outboxed Jeffries who had a bad technique even by those standards. Jack Johnson invented uppercuts later and dominated people with them.

    A guy like Benny Leonard must have looked awesome when he first arrived because his techniques were so much better to his timers. As we know, in boxing the difference of how a fighter looks against a good opponent and how he looks against a bum is a great one. However, this technical edge that made him rule his own time, nor the fact that some reporters called his style magical or whatever, means he could be competitive decades after. Nothing suggests that
     
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    When he isn't slagging off Duran I quite like this Finnish guy.
     
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    The gulf between 1905 and 1925 alone is enormous... Jeffries would have been beaten to death by the LIGHT heavies of 1925, never mind the heavies... The idea of Jeffries doing anything but getting battered into jelly by jack Dempsey , hell, jack SHARKEY- is laughable
     
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    Seriously. I boxed as a teenager... So I understand proper punching technique, distance, foot work etc etc...

    And I'm much bigger than Jeffries. Seriously, I'd probably stop him in two or three rounds tops.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Seriously, indeed.
     
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    :lol:

    If they though he was big at around 6'1, my big ass would blow them away. Coupled with the fact that I have actually witnessed proper boxing, and I'd be at least a 4-1 fave.
     
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    you would double jab and Jeffries would exclaim "What is this DEMONRY??!!!!"
     
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    :laughing:

    He'd probably be disqualified for witchcraft.
     

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