Floyd Patterson vs Tommy Morrison

Which left hook hits the mark first?

 

Not sure whose lands first, but Patterson's lands last.

 

I think Morrison knocks Patterson out, frankly

 

I think so, too. Patterson has Morrison beat in most areas as a boxer & fighter.

 

Except his chin is just as bad and he's 30 pounds smaller and never beat a big hitter in his life

 

Johansson? Twice? Bonavena (when Patterson was totally shot, no less)?

I'm not discounting Morrison's size, or saying it couldn't be a deciding factor here, just that Patterson was by absolute streets the superior fighter.

 

I'd like to point out that Floyd Patterson would be the (third) greatest fighter that Tommy Morrison has ever faced.

 

:giggle:

 

Patterson is no doubt better, but he's also virtually chinless

Bonavena was better arguably than Morrison, but styles make fights... Bonavena wasn't fast of hand, Morrison IS and Morrison hit considerably harder than Oscar Bonavena

Johannsen was absolute garbage... a two-hit wonder who did NOTHING ELSE EVER... he was a right hand hand, a ten cent chin and tissue paper willpower

 

I hope you're not going to contend Morrison was clearly a better fighter than Johansson. Morrison beat nobody, because he was nobody.

 

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Johannsen beat Patterson - who's heavyweight pedigree is vastly overrated to begin with... His entire career can be boiled down to one win and three losses against one of the worst true heavyweight champions of the 20th century and one ko of Eddie Machen that I wouldn't have given him a hellbound snowball's chance of duplicating... There was absolutely nothing remarkable about ingemar... Morrison, who also sucked, would knock him dead... He was 30 pounds bigger, actually used BOTH hands, had faster hands, hit just as hard and had basically as bad a chin...

 

Morrison didnt knock anyone dead who actually hit him back, with the exception of a used-up Ruddock and mighty Joe Hipp. Beating Machen, Patterson and Cooper trumps any Morrison victory, with the exception of a sluggish Foreman.

 

one shot from that Foreman would have ended a fight against Johannsen

Cooper??? who exactly DIDN'T beat Henry Cooper???

name one halfway decent top ten heavyweight of the 60s who FAILED TO BEAT Henry Cooper... everybody beat him...

Johannsen sucked... Morrison would annihlate him... yes, TOmmy Morrison would kill him, thats how much he sucked.

The very same guys who knocked Morrison out would do the same to Ingo

And Patterson never beat a big puncher in his life, with the exception of one who had no heart and the chin of a prepubscent boy and who's power is overrated to begin with... even then, he had to climb off the deck 100 times to do it

Patterson was a very skillful Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight fighting hands down the worst opposition of any Heavyweight champion since Tommy Burns before he was humiliated by the first remotely threatening challenger (Ingo) he faced... he then had to rematch him before having his title rightfully taken from him by a real heavyweight (Liston) ... the rest of his career is skillful showings against good heavyweights who didnt have one-shot power

 

You aren't too big on Ingo it sounds.

 

I can't fathom how anyone COULD be

He is a wholly unremarkable fighter with literally one weapon and nothing else

 

He did have perhaps the most beautiful boxing wife ever to use his 'weapon' to, though

 

I'm not big on Johansson, either --- in fact, I don't know anyone who isn't Swedish who would be. I just happen to think Morrison was complete garbage, even worse than Johansson, who was legitimately a poor HW Champ. Morrison beating Patterson is not something I find far-fetched, but I do think it fairly unlikely. He was such an awful fighter.

 

Morrison wasn't very good, but he's one of my favorite non-elite guys.

He could box a little bit and was usually pretty entertaning to watch.

 

As was Arturo Gatti.

 

who was pretty much the equal of either guy - Johannson or Morrison

 

Great post.:bears:

Outside of his right hand, Ingo was nothing to write home about. Morrison was better than him.

 

seriously, Ingo's only advantage over Morrison is that he fought fewer guys who could punch and fought at a time when the whole world knew who the heavyweight champ of the world was... If Sonny Liston had gotten a well-deserved shot at Patterson sooner, Ingo probably would have been a challenger of his and would've gotten the same treatment Patterson got... today, no one would have remembered him at all, other than as a victim of Liston's

Floyd Patterson's very weak status as a champ made "Ingo" and his fake legacy possible

 

& Morrison wouldn't be left a quivering wreck on the canvas against Liston? Morrison couldn't beat Machen with a baseball bat, & he simply was not in Patterson's class as a fighter. He was God awful, literally. Even Johansson wouldn't have broken a sweat disposing of Joe Hipp.

 

Of course Morrison loses to liston... That's not the point.

Patterson had a terrible chin and was badly hurt by every puncher he faced... The analogy of "so was Morrison" doesn't wash because Patterson was not a big puncher... His KOs were against terrible opposition...

Ken norton was better than earnie shavers... Still the result was Shavers KO1 ... Inevitable

 

I agree that Morrison would kill Johansson. 4 or 5 rounds, tops.

 

Patterson was not a big puncher? I disagree strenuously.

 

Its really about Patterson-Morrison, though.

 

I'd take Morrison over him, too

 

no, I think he was a pretty average puncher for a heavyweight

who did he knock out exactly?

his challengers were as bad as Tommy Burns or Vitali, possibly worse than Vitali's

thats where his knockouts lie

in his fights with good heavyweights like Ellis and Quarry, there is little evidence of serious punching power

Joe Frazier had serious power... compare his bouts with those same gentlemen