Which victim of a score card robbery did you feel most sorry for ?

Oh shit, I forgot that. I felt really bad for him at the time, but yeah, not so much after the rematch.

Although diuretics or not, you can still feel kind of bad for him in the rematch, seeing as he weakened himself to make the weight and Goozman didn't, the diurectics obviously didn't help much.

 

Well, not really because the belt became vacant after Nate Campbell failed to make weight against Funeka the year prior.

Basically, the Guzman-Funeka rematch was a vacant lightweight title fight between two guys who had no business fighting at that weight.

They're also to blame for that boring albatross Miguel Vazquez currently serving as claimant to that belt.

 

Eubank-Dan Sherry.

I don't know why I'm the ONLY person that ever talks about this fight.

Most CORRUPT robbery in professional boxing history.

Barry Hearn literally in fron of our faces made a deal with the judges after that fight. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

 

Total, clear cut robbery in my book.

 

I hear you but...the perception of the fight was different to the round by round scoring though. Oscar won his ronds BIGGER than Tito won his, but they were still all 10-9 rounds and Tito arguably won 6...if you give him the last 4.

 

I don't think there's any argument for giving Tito six rounds there. Never have.

 

Rounds 1,4,9-12?

Theoretically possible?

 

That fight was very close and argued 1000000000000000000000 times. I had Oscar winning it by 1 point. It was his to win but failed so by running for his life. It it was a 15 round fight he would have been in deep trouble.

 

Not in a million years did Tito win 6 rounds against Oscar.

If he won 6 rounds against Oscar, he won 4 rounds against Hopkins and 3 rounds against Winky ::

 

The Oscar fight wasn't the domination that the Winky/Hopkins fights were.

 

But fights aren't scored based on the theoretical rounds 13,14, and 15.
That said, I didn't think this was such a terrible robbery. Neither guy won any rounds big.

 

I didn't feel sorry for DLH. I do think he was robbed, but he has himself to blame for it.

 

The biggest misconceptions about DLH-Tito:
Oscar swept the first eight
Tito swept the last four

Arum himself is to blame for that as that was his way of insisting that the worst case scenario was Oscar "only" winning eight rounds.

 

I don't know how you could feel bad for Lennox. That draw was one of the best things to happen to him. It got even the majority of the United States public on his side. It also completely distracted from an incredibly cautious gameplan and a stinker of a fight (despite a dominant performance) and gave Lennox the publicity and respect he had always lacked in the US.

 

For the topic - i don't know why but i always felt very bad for Jeff Fenech vs. Azumah Nelson. Chance to be a 4 division champion, and even tho the titles were still a bit watered down back then it seemed to mean a little more than it does now to be a champion thru 4 weight classes.

 

Ah another that just came to mind...

Chavez-Randall II

Not only was Randall screwed over in how the fight ended, I still thought he was winning the fight to that point. Chavez flat out quit at a time when Frankie was taking over the fight and also benefited from that stupid point deduction rule the WBC has (had) for a cut caused by a headbutt.

 

I thought Tito swept the last 4. I had him wnning the last 2 mins of the 9th round after Oscar started fast in that round. Tito won rounds 10-12 clearly.

Agreed though about Oscar not necessarily winnin gthe first 8. Rounds 1 and 4 were close and 4 in particular looked to go Tito's way. Lederman scored the 5th for Tito but I disagree with him on that one.

 

Lederman has a tendency to give rounds to fighters who are trailing just to keep the fight closer looking for the casual viewer and hence keep them watching the channel.

 

Sturm-DLH

The fight was all but decided the moment it was inked. Sturm still flew abroad for the fight, refused to roll over and closed the show strong. What seemed like mere seconds later, matching cards of 115-113 send him home an ex-beltholder.

 

I've always had a hard time feeling sorry for DLH, no matter what the situation. He just always seemed to be selling one angle or another...........win or lose.

Great businessman, Pretty good fighter, usually not boring...........but I don't think I've ever caught myself rooting for him in any fight he's ever been in.

:dunno:

 

That was a really awful robbery, what made it more awful is how HBO made it sound like DLH winning was an acceptable or plausible outcome. DLH didn't win more than 4 rounds of that fight.

 

Was it really that bad? I've never properly watched the fight so I don't really know, I know Oscar looked pretty crap and Sturm seemed to be winning, but I didn't know it was meant to be that bad a robbery.

 

Yea Oscar admitted it was a terrible decision and he should have lost

 

It was really that bad, Oscar was totally outclassed. For some reason - I guess because it's Oscar - it just got glossed over. 4 rounds to DLH is being generous.

 

Whitaker/Chavez... it should have been his defining moment... sure, everybody except Ron King (who is useless) and Double L (who is mentally ill) knows Whitaker won the fight, but it's still a "D" on the record

Lockridge/Gomez... Rocky Lockridge deserved to win that fight, he was beyond gipped

Tyrone Everett/Alfredo Escalera... Escalera was a heck of a fighter, but he should have been the former champ at the end of those 15 rounds... Everett was shot dead six months later... I think he would have given Arguello fits, as he was a slick southpaw, very skilled

 

I agree De La Hoya lost (& he admitted as much), but my take is it was fairly close. De La Hoya taking five rounds is not unreasonable --- as I saw it, saying four rounds for him is being generous is.

 

Kenny Norton & Jimmy Young --- even though a lot of people discard Young for dislike of his tactics (or love of Ali), it's clear to me that anyone fighting Ali for the championship post-Foreman had more to contend with than Ali himself.

Norton, Young, Lyle...all up against it.

 

Same here and for the same reasons. Then add that Santa Cruz lost in a meaningless matchup for low pay a few fights later which completely removed him from any type of marquee matchup.

 

Sturm beat the crap out of Oscar in the last two rounds. 5 of the 6 scorecards went to Oscar so he could win the belt by scores of 115-113 (3x). Given that Oscar was fat, and Sturm got to milk the loss forever, nobody should feel sorry for him. In all honesty he´s still milking it today.

 

Not to mention the fact Casamayor is about as likeable as Ike Ibeabuchi.