Why was Zab Judah a 3-1 favorite against Tszyu?

grey is one guy Id surely make a rude comment to if i bumped into him at a fight

 

I think so.

I think Judah may have also spent much of the Vester fight denigrating Tszyu by mocking his "range-finder" left-hand.

 

I miss Tszyu.

 

i was convinced that judah was beatable when he looked sloppy vs. that punching bag hector quiroz on the undercard of tyson-golota.

 

It's only been six years since he last fought. Based on the activity he displayed throughout his prime, that means we've only missed about one fight so far, maybe two.

 

Pretty cheap, being honest. Tszyu had significant injuries at the tail-end of his career (though he did not peak young). Don't make him out to be a Mayweather.

 

His younger son (13) was in the paper a few days ago, having won his first Ams tournament.

 

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Why? He's a boring fighter, didn't fight often at all, and his 3 toughest opponents were Hatton, Phillips, and Judah.

Not really a fighter I can imagine people missing to be honest.

It would kind of be like missing Floyd if he retired now.

 

I'm sure you'll have a laughing emoticon in store for this, but he brought something immensely rare to the sport --- something even the vast majority of our greatest legends failed to...humility, decency & class.

 

I don't really give a shit what anyone thinks about Floyd, at the end of the day if you don't like watching him fight, then you don't like watching boxing at it's absolute best.

 

130 to 135 pound Floyd - absolutely agreed.

147 pound Floyd, no fucking way.

Go and rewatch Floyd against Oscar and Baldomir and tell me how awesome he is to watch.

He has become a hideous cherry picking chode.

Like I told you before LG, I used to be a Floyd fan and actually used to share the opinion you just gave. I'd give people DVD's of Floyd fights to get them into boxing, because he can be a joy to watch.

Since he lost to Castillo, and even more so since he moved to WW, he's been pathetically disappointing.

I watch boxing to be entertained, not to watch a guy try to nullify his opponent in the most boring, tedious way possible.

To be fair, he was actually less negative than usual against Mosley, that's because Mosley had nothing to offer. He still could have stepped it up FAR more than he did, and got Mosley out of there.

 

C'mon, criticism for not stopping Mosley coming from a Pac fan? Floyd was way more entertaining against Shane than Manny was. It also speaks volumes when Mayweather Jr is criticized for fighting JMM at 147, but Pacquiao isn't criticized for fighting an older version that was previously completely shut out by Floyd at the same weight.

DLH was much bigger but still got schooled, against Baldomir he hurt his hand and couldn't throw with it, so he didn't have much of a choice.

IMO the Judah, Marquez, Hatton, and Mosley fights were all impressive performances, but I do agree that Floyd has way more potential than he's shown and that he wasted a lot of his prime. Still, I ultimately don't blame him for the fight that could've cemented his legacy falling apart. It's sad, because Pac is the type of fighter who would really bring out the absolute best in Floyd.

Anyway, I've mentioned this and I'm sure we've discussed it at length ("like I said before!") but that's kind of how I feel about Manny Pac - great fan of his up to 130 lbs, then he a) ducked a rubbermatch with Marquez, b) fought cherry-picked opponents (Floyd leftovers, guys coming off of career-altering losses, catchweight shenanigans, guys who were just never that good to begin with, etc) starting with David Diaz, and c) refused to take the blood tests against Floyd.