Where Does Bernard Hopkins rank among the greatest fighters ever?

He's got to be in the top 10?

 

"Still behind Monzon, and Hagler." - the old timers.

 

He does? Carl Froch beat Pascal:dunno:

 

Beating Pascal adds to his legacy obviously but it's not such a huge win that it catapults him as high as top 10.

 

Boxing is the ONLY sport in which new age fighters can beat the world, and cure cancer, yet still not move into the top 10.

I dislike Hopkins in the later stages of his career, BUT..... he's a top a 10-12 all time fighter.

 

Calm down. These fighters are not that good. Pavlik, Pascal? LOL

Sure he gets bonus points for age but his middleweight reign was against a bad era of fighters.

 

True, but you called Nard's opponent tonight 'Crapscal'

I'm not sure how beating a pile of shit moves you into the top 10 of all time.

 

Could Hagler and Monzon have beaten Crapscal at 46?

 

Monzon would have straight chucked Pascal off a balcony

 

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I have him #126, 58 slots behind Railway Workin' O'Leary

 

Same.

 

fights like this just affirm that most fighters are on steroids. Hopkins is cancer on the eyes with great epo.

 

Would U FAVOR a 46 Year Old Carl Froch to Beat TODAY'S Version of Pascal???...REED Wouldn't Either...



REED:Lok:

 

Depends on how much you value longevity as a sign of greatness, & how much it mitigates the fact that the opposition has not been great when assessing it.

The age argument can establish him as at the top of all-time 46y.o greats.

 

I hope thats about the Middleweight division, and not pound-for-pound.

 

Carl beat Pascal in an open fight. Hopkins is a racist yank cheat.

 

:goodnews:

 

I say can You See
By The Cremes Early Light
That You Yanks Are So Sly
And Your Morals Are Pure Shite
La la la la la la la

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Hes been fighting at the championship level for nearly two decades. Thats pretty amazing.

 

Not as amazing as the fact that he is only 11 years younger than Marvin Hagler

 

I heard some whispers recently that Lance Armstrong is "sweating steroids" and that Bernard Hopkins is a legend. Can anyone confirm this??

 

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I'm still genuinely astonished every time I'm reminded of that.

 

:: Dicks

 

:: :: :bears:

 

I'm curious, how do you square your impeccable social outlook and whiter-than-white moral standards with your love for this cheat Hopkins? Must be quite the balancing act.

 

There is truth here. His two best wins were against guys who were welterweights in theire best day.

Didn't Robert Allen count for three victories and Antwun Echols two?

 

I don't have much of a moral standard. Just not a cunt.

 

Listen to me on this one:

Not because of the Pascal fight, per se, but because of his career in totality..as well as his PROVEN abilities/attributes (chin, heart, ring generalship, balance, adaptablility, stamina, defense)...unless you're a blind Bert-Sugaresque elitist...you have to rank Hopkins in the top 10 all time.

 

I don't have a cunt either.