Roberto Duran vs. Bernard Hopkins @ MW

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Dog Jones, May 27, 2011.

  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Does Duran win because he can go 15 rounds?
     
  2. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I would never take a smaller fighter over Hopkins in a boxing match.

    Hopkins by UD or TKO depending on it Duran felt like quitting that day.
     
  3. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Hopkins wins this via decision... I like his ability to upset tempo and I think he welcomes a dirty fight, so Duran's sometimes fresh tactics would be met with an enthusiastic response
     
  4. Hopkins clearly. 8-4 type of deal.
     
  5. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    You know what's amazing? Roberto Duran is only 14 years older than Bernard Hopkins!
     
  6. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    :bears::lol:

    How about this - the difference in age between Wilfred Benitez & B-Hop is less than 6 1/2 years! Whereas the difference in age between Hopkins and Morales is nearly 12 years!
     
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  7. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    :bears::jaw:

    Also, Hopkins was born just 52 years after Tony Zale
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    JAke & Hut*Hut > Steve_Dave :cheer:
     
  9. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Ugo too.
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Hopkins was born in Philidelphia whereas Marvin Hagler was born in Newark!:jaw:
     
  11. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    This would actually be an interesting bout (as much as any Hopkins fight could be, anyway :lol: ). I don't doubt the best version of Hopkins would win it, but between the fouling, pre, mid & post-fight trash talk, & a little of the actual Boxing, I see an intriguing, if not exactly enthralling, fight.
     
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    Duran SD, close but clear.
     
  13. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Hagler really dropped the ball against Duran. It's been the crux of Duran's claim to being anything at Middle since.
     
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    If Duran hadn't broken his hand, he would have won that fight. Hagler pulled it out in the last few rounds when Duran couldn't do anything.

    Plus a 5'7 lightweight beaten a guy like Barkley and putting him on his arse, age 38 no less, is pretty fucking impressive.

    I'm no sure he dropped the ball so much as was just outfoxed by the great Roberto.
     
  15. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I'll concede the Barkley fight (for some reason, was thinking that was at SMW).

    I disagree though that Hagler was out-foxed --- Duran put up a great fight & performed well within himself, but the defining factor as to why the fight was so narrow? Hagler just didn't step it up against a legend when the pressure was on (for the first time in his career). I mean, imagine what Monzon would've done to Duran at Middle. He'd have him boxed, diced, & shipped back home along the Panama canal.

    I'm of the opinion Hagler would've won a rematch more convincingly.
     
  16. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Didn't know that. That broken hand enhances Roberto's legacy!:mj:
     
  17. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    :lol:

    Did everyone who punched that boulder napper break their hand?
     
  18. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    this is the first I'm hearing of an alleged broken hand on Duran in that fight... and watching the fight, it doesn't appear to be the case at all

    As soon as Hagler stepped up the aggression, he simply took over the fight

    Duran was amazing and great and all of that, but if Hagler had simply put the pedal to the metal earlier, like he did in the last two rounds, he would have worn Duran out and probably stopped him... he allowed himself to get lulled into a boxing match, because he thought Duran would be aggressive... brilliant tactical shift by Duran, bad failure to adjust to it sooner by Hagler... I still think the closeness of the fight is greatly exaggerated... Duran boxed superbly and definitely won some rounds, but that was essentially a 9-6 type of affair... Hagler was a clear winner
     
  19. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Agree with every word of that, tbh (except perhaps the stoppage part). It was a foreshadowing of his failure to do so against Leonard as well, IMO.

    This is purely pulled out my ass based on observation, but I have a feeling Hagler's ego was wrapped up in proving he had boxing skills enough to hang with those guys rather than just being seen as imposing his size and strength on them. If he'd just done the latter he'd have beaten both more easily.

    But as you say, Duran outsmarted him for long periods of that and he deserves some credit for it, beyond doing it 4 divisions above his best weight, well past prime against one of the best middles ever, etc.:Thumbs:
     
  20. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    hopkins 11-4 /12-3 type of affair
     
  21. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    Winning 10 out of 15 rounds is considered dropping the ball now?
     
  22. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Hopkins, easily. More convincing than Hagler.
     
  23. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Why don't you fly to Italy and say that to Hagler's face?

    Also take me with you because i'd like to see Italy.
     
  24. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Will you have my back if Hagler starts throwing shit around?
     
  25. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    I aint risking injuring myself.

    I'm sure you can take Marvin without my help.
     
  26. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Of course I can. That's not the point.
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    If Hagler tries to talk trash after you've left him near unconscious on the ground i'll stomp his ass!
     
  28. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    :bears:
     

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