Berto says Ortiz is juicing

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10039.html

 

Berto is a BITCH......"there is a reason Ortiz took my shots and kept on coming"....bitch please...Berto thought he was going to once again run over the smaller guy..and got tag and hurt early and it was over after that....


He had a chance in Round 6 to put Ortiz away and he wasted it by exposing his chin in the air and getting tag again...

 

There's a reason alright...Berto finally fought a guy who hit him back. Not to mention...perhaps Andre doesn't hit as hard as he thinks he does.

 

Berto is a little bitch.

The alleged heartless quitter basically beat the fight out of Berto.

 

berto has been reading a certain weasel from fight beat and his crackpot theories.

 

Berto is garbage.

 

Ortiz is on gear. It was obvious as fuck on the night. Brand new neck, strong as fuck, Oh..wait....he is "big at the weight"...shut the fuck up bitches. This is America. Lie your fucking ass off.

 

Berto's a bitch. Yeah he all of a sudden knows what Ortiz was on since he lost. I hope this stupid shit don't become a trend.

 

God almighty - why does everything that happens in your mind end up connected to "America" somehow? What is your psychological hangup? So if a Haitian gets beat by a Mexican, and the Haitian sore loser starts spewing shit it is because... "This is America"? Honest to god, you should see a shrink (or another one if your first took the easy way out and hung himself). I have never seen someone out of an institution as singularly obsessed with a concept as you are with America and somehow relating all the world's sin and ills back to her. It's as if you feel the need to somehow punish and repudiate the concept of the United States to soothe some roaring wound you have within.

Newsflash: PEOPLE ARE SINFUL. It doesn't matter where they live or even less where they choose to BOX each other. When Jesus said we have a sinful nature, I don't care what you think about Christianity or religion - at least that one he got RIGHT. Oh, and that was before America.

Your battle, Irish, is with PEOPLE. Humanity. Not America. And incidentally, not with HBO, or Max Kellerman, or any other specific entity you relentlessly think about and criticize. None of it will ever get "better", because it is all run by PEOPLE.

Just trying to help you along the way as you work through your mental thicket.

On the topic at hand, I think that as long as boxing continue to be an embarrassing joke as far as drug testing goes, you will get angry fighters accusing one another of PED use. It will just get worse. It is sad, and Berto comes across as truly pathetic, but he and everybody else who levels accusations will always have something to point to to get traction. And no, it isn't cranium size. It's the shameful lack of testing in boxing.

 

"This is America, Lie Your Ass Off"- Billy Bob Thornton in the "Bad News Bears". Shite film but Billy Bob uttered some wisdom.

 

It wouldn't surprise me. Boxers love excuses and this is just another one guys can trumpet.

 

"I hope this doesn't become a trend"- Valdosta.

Val, are you familiar with the expression....."Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive".

Thats Shakespeare, as Ian Darke of Sky Sports would tell you.

The bottom line is, once Max Kellerman decided that 2007 would be a good year to announce that 7 out of the top 10 heavyweights were juicing, once Floyd decided that 2010 would be a good year to say that Manny Pac was on gear, once Leonard Ellerbee decided to tell us all about "Egregious Behaviour"......it became OPEN SEASON on just about every fucking fighter out there.

People like Kellerman had their agenda, Floyd had his agenda....the problem with that is its universal. Its one size fits all. Anyone can now have an excuse as to why they looked bad, why they didn't win, why they won't take a particular fight.

Kellerman could have talked about Steroids when Holy was outmuscling Tyson. He could have talked about Steroids when Evan Fields was answering that phone, or when Shane was coming clean, or when Vargas was failing a test, post-Oscar. He could have talked about steroids when Roy Jones "failed" a test or when Roy Jones beefed up to 200+ for Ruiz. He could have talked about steroids when Toney W12 Ruiz was changed to an NC after Toney failed a test. He could have talked about steroids when Botha was stripped of the IBF belt after the Schulz win.

But he didn't. It suited him to bring it up in 2007. Now he has to sit in the middle and suck on a fat one when people raise questions about Ortiz- a guy who went from being rag-dolled by Maidana, and quitting, much to Max's chagrin and disgust, to rag-dolling Berto.

Max explains this away with talk of "weight-making" and "being strong at 147". Yeah. OK.

Live with it fella's.

 

they both juice.

berto lost. end of story.

 

Ahhhhh.............I like it. Its sort of like keeping up appearances, and taking kudos at the same time. Neat.

 

It's not true unless Floyd says it.

 

If Ortiz goes up 4 divisions, looks even better at the weight than he did before, and then turns down a $50m fight because he didn't want to take a blood test, people may begin to look him askance.

 

Ortiz lost to little Maidana, a guy anciant Morales just had a close fight with. He's bigger than ever, much bigger than Berto and looks better than ever against Berto.

The evidence is clear.

 

That he was fighting at too low a weight before?:dunno:

 

JWW was Ortiz's first pro division and he was huge at the weight. He has room to move up to 154 still, maybe 160 when he's older, and that's something everyone expects. He obviously won't look as good at 160 as he does at 140-147. You suck and so does your idiotic attempt at an analogy.

 

It's clear as day, open your eyes. You don't know boxing!

 

Look up the word "boxing," it doesn't mean what you think it means (sommelier level skill when judging what Pacquiao has eaten that day based on the taste of his various bodily fluids).

 

Mayweather fans are too easy.

 

Internet Debate for Morons 101:

When all else fails, fall back on inane and weak sarcasm that does nothing to address the point you're refuting. Repeat a few times, then randomly declare yourself the victor.

 

The fact that you think I am serious is the best part. ::

 

The fact that you think I think you're serious even after I expressly acknowledged that I was aware you were being sarcastic is better, imo.

 

Berto's allegations include him having inside information from people who know Ortiz. It's not the same thing as just speculating.

 

When all else fails? It started as a joke, nothing failed.

 

You were attempting to make a point (that everyone here knows you genuinely believe) via sarcasm, which you're confusing with a "joke." I addressed the point you made and you attempted the same again, and when that failed you retreated to inanity.

 

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Come on. You don't look all that bigger with a few lbs either way.

His neck and face had increased in girth.

He looked WAY WAY bigger.