Does Anderson Silva's immediate refusal to fight Jon Jones tell us anything?

He seems desperate to getting the tiny GSP in the cage. But as soon as Jon Jones smashed Shogun, there was an immediate demand for a Jones/Anderson fight and Anderson completely refused the possibility of the fight ever happening and also trying to claim that he and Jones are really close friends (which was news to Jon Jones I think).:: Is Anderson scared of Jones?

Is this the problem with fighting sports as opposed to other sports which have actual systems in place where teams and athletes have to play each other no matter what like the NFL, NBA, NHL, Tennis, etc?

Also, would you order Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones on PPV? Or could you care less?

 

I don't consider Silva to be ducking Jones, they are different weight divisions and Jones is MUCH bigger than Silva.

In exactly the same way, you can't say GSP is ducking Silva.

Both fights are unfair, both matches have a huge size difference.

 

I think the difference in size between Jones and Silva is bigger than Silva and GSP.

As for the fight, Silva is looking for a couple of big fights to close out his career and cement his legacy, don't really think he wants to fight a young phenom who is a ton bigger than him and is the worst style matchup possible for him.

With GSP and Silva, you have guys who are similar in terms of career prestige, and P4P ranking, both have cleaned out their divisions. Jones is still a relative MMA neophyte and needs to establish himself more, and more importantly clean out his division before any fights with Silva or any other superfights are entertained.

 

Nah! Not that much bigger.

 

The fight can happen because Anderson already fought bigger guys like Forrest Griffin at 205. Bigger as in naturally bigger body-size. Not just height.

 

Judging from the photo Hanzy just posted, no, I think the size difference is actually bigger in Silva Vs GSP.

GSP is what, 5'10? Silva is a big middleweight, Joosp is an average sized welterweight.

 

If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. Bones Jones vs The Spider does make sense because it will make a hell of a lot of dollars. The fight needs to happen but Anderson is sh*tting himself like Mayweather is doing at the thought of fighting Pacquiao.

 

It tells us that Jon Jones is a bad bad man.

 

GSP isn't really average sized. He's the same size as Nate Marqardt according to Nate, and Nate was a big Middleweight. GSP is walking around at something like 194lbs now before he starts his cut, which is actually the same as Silva for the Maia fight who weighed 193 before his cut to only 185lbs, and although he's only 5'10 and some change, his 76' reach is, to my knowledge the best in the division, and is only a inch and a half less than Silva. Obviously comparing this to 84.5 monster Jones. Jones is also reaching I think 231lbs before his cut and only getting bigger.

 

231lbs basically means he's out of shape and eating burgers and hotdogs. Just like Rampage Jackson is 240lbs walking around and his face is all fat and everything.

 

Nah. That's really close to his in ring weight. That's close to his weight like a week or two before the fight.

He weighed at least 221lbs against Shogun.

 

Jones dwarfs Silva. Walking weight, cutting weight, fighting weight, I don't care, Jon Jones is a monster at 6'4" with an 84 1/2 inch reach.

Get real. Jones makes Cain look small.

 

Jones is really a heavyweight...he's just kind of dabbling around 205 because of his bone structure and ability to make a big cut.

His frame is just so massive he's already saying he'll absolutely be at HW in a few years. And wouldn't surprise me if he made at least 260lb. Dude is as big as Overeem frame wise.

 

Well, you know that you and I have debated the size difference between GSP and Silva. But the fact is that the jump from Silva to Jones is easily bigger.

Jones could easily become a 235-240 pound HW. I think 260 would be tough and probably make him a lesser fighter.

 

Why? Frank Mir was able to roid himself up to a JACKED 265lb pounds. Jones is naturally much bigger than Mir as well, and much stronger.

 

Plus the size difference doesn't matter as much as simply the point they are in their careers. Jones looks like a phenom, but he is still pretty much untested, while GSP and Silva are both vying for career P4P ranking slots. It'd be like...all things equal, making Mayweather vs Andre Ward(assuming he wins the Super 6) instead of Mayweather vs Pac.

 

But Mir has being fighting his entire MMA career over 230 pounds. He's used to carrying that weight whether it is fat earlier or muscle since the roid....ummm new diet.

His frame could handle 260 but he's a guy that wrestled under 200 pounds and spent his MMA career so far at 205. 260 wouldn't work.

And I don't agree that Jones is naturally MUCH bigger than Mir. Mir is 6'3" and has always been a big guy.

 

Well, GSP-Silva is the more important fight as it pits the top 2 guys in the world against each other.

That being said, Silva-Jones would be a more enjoyable fight.

 

Not really. Jones would throw him on the ground and hit him a bunch of times with elbows and other tomfoolery.

At least the GSP-Silva dynamic is more fun because while GSP could outwrestle him...Silva has the chance to out GSP through adversity and exploit his weak chin and laughable fighting spirit/heart.

 

Woah, throw the wrestling COMPLETELY out of the equation...dude hasn't wrestled since he was still going through puberty.

Plus, Frank was really low...I think around 245 against Lesnar the second time. Before he started juicing. With the aid of steroids Jones could make 260lbs IMO...maybe 255lb if 260 is pushing it.

 

Dude, try to read next time.

Mir has spent his entire adult life fighting over 230 pounds. Jones has spent his at 205 or less.

If you can't understand that it would be easier for Mir to be comfortable at 260 than it would be for Jones, I really don't know what else to say.

Jones is a young guy and certainly has the frame to carry 260 but comparing him to a guy like Mir, who has always fought over 230-240 is just apples and oranges.

A better comparison would be him bulking up with steroids like Overeem slowly over a period of time. That's a comparison that makes perfect sense.

 

You telling someone to read...smh.

And no, he cuts down to 205. He's weighing in at over 220, big difference.

And Overeem probably uses growth hormone, not steroids. Also...Mir has definitely bulked up over time. He looked absolutely massive against Nelson, even though technically he was lighter than when he bulked up against Kongo and then Carwin.

 

Frank Mir fought at around 255-260 since before his accident up until his 2nd fight with Lesnar where he trained down to 245.

Mir then bulked up over 1 fight.

He went from 245 to 264.5 in the 5 months between UFC 100 and UFC 107.

Damn.

 

He was still kind of fat. His physique is ridiculous compared to then with 5lbs less weight. He's as big as he's ever been against Nelson. That much was obvious, roids put a shitton of lean muscle on him.

 

Yep.. His 255-260 before the 2nd Lesnar fight was a fat weight. He really trimmed down and looked great for the 2nd Lesnar fight.

But his gaining of 20 pounds of muscle between UFC 100 and 107 seemed unnatural.

 

It was. But it is still a process. Even after that, he lost 5lbs but added more lean muscle because some of it was still fat. He looks just so absurdly massive in the Nelson fight. It's completely insane.

 

HARD to Argue w/ANYTHING U just Posted...

Like U Said, Bones Jones is an MMA Neophyte...He's a NEXT LEVEL Fighter from Who & What Anderson Silva has Been to MMA...Jones has the Same Exact BODYTYPE as Silva, Only BIGGER...& Probably MORE Athletic...Basically, "Silva vs. Bones" has "CHANGING OF THE GUARD" Written All Over it...

Anderson Silva has ALREADY Shown Signs of Slippage...He's ALREADY on the DOWNSIDE of his Career...There ISN'T a Shred of Upside to Silva Facing Bones Jones...Sure, GSP is SMALLER than Anderson, as Anderson is Smaller than Bones Jones, but After the Diaz Fight, GSP Will NEED to Move Up a Weight Class Or Risk HURTING his Legacy...Silva's Legacy is ALREADY Intact....



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Anderson has already fought men as big as Jon Jones. He went up to LH to fight Forrest Griffin who in terms of physical size is as big as Jon Jones. 6'3, 205lbs and walks around at 240+
So if Anderson was brave enough to go up to 205 to fight a big man, why not show that same bravado and fight a man who might have a chance to beat him?
Why handpick fights? Why not further enhance his legacy? Take a risk? Show the world just how good you are by taking on a dangerous fight? Why always play it safe?

 

Anderson Silva is Already CERTIFIED, Hanz...What MORE Does he Need to Prove???...He's UFC's & MMA's MOST PROVEN Fighter, @ the Moment...

Sliva ALMOST Lost ONE Fight Since he's Been in UFC... But Other than that, he's Probably Been the UFC's Most Consistently DOMINANT Champion EVER...What MORE Does he Need to Do????....Anderson has EARNED the Right to Pursue Fights that BEHOOVE him....

As Much as REED Loooooooves GSP, he's just about UNCHALLENGED @ 170...

 

.... Also, are U REALLY Comparing Forrest Griffin & Bones Jones, Hanz???...Who would YOU Rather Fight, if your Life Depended on it???...




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