Sergio Martinez vs Darren Barker a possibility....

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  1. Jimmy

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    Apparently they've agreed terms to fight on october 1.
     
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    Cotto refused to meet martinez
     
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    "One thing you can't take away from Barker is he has the courage to face the best," Martinez said. "He has the courage to face the best more than Cotto or Chavez. He has more courage than them. I am fighting an undefeated fighter. As I have always said, I am ready for anyone. Nobody else took a step forward to make this fight, but Barker did. I am very disappointed in Cotto. He has no balls to face me."

    Martinez ran Cotto off of HBO. It will be interesting to see how Arum spins this.
     
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    Cotto is not a MW. Why should he fight Martinez? In Cotto, Martinez is obviously just looking for an easy payday against a smaller name opponent.

    At least with this Barker guy he is actually a 160 pounder.
     
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    Barker is going to get his head ripped off. What a bizarre fight to take at this stage of his career...

    MTF :scratcher:
     
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    Wow, I have never heard of ANY of Barkers opponents before.

    Looks like he barely eeked out a decision win in his last fight over a guy who lost twice to Zbik.
     
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    martinez only wants to fight 2 or 3 more times and retire. he is getting decent money, but this may cause him to stick around longer than he wants to. fighting no namers for his hbo minimum.
     
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    Barker was fucking terrible in his last fight. No way he'll be a challenge vs martinez, no way
     
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    Has HBO accepted Barker as an opponent?

    Maybe he should think about challenging Bute and getting into the mix at 168. I doubt he'll lure Pac, Mayweather, or Cotto up to 160 so it seems his only options are to either challenge himself at 168 or try and drop back down to 154.
     
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    ^^^ i don't think so, nothing is 100% yet
     
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    They'll accept him because he is undefeated and the reigning European Champion. On paper it's a decent stay busy fight for Maravilla
     
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    Barker is poo
     
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    So who should Martinez be fighting?
     
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    I'm way too big for Spurt Fightin' Sergio.
     
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    Shit,... this fight oughta go straight into Illuminati's avatar.
     
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    Wow, Martinez Put Cotto on BLAST, Didn't He???...:lol:

    Arum will SPIN it as Martinez Being "Toooo BIG", but it's NOT like he's a True Middleweight...Makes U Wonder What the Fuck Cotto is Waiting Around 4, in Terms of Fights???...Margarita May NEVER Fight Again & Surely Arum will MILK Chavez Jr's Newly Won Middleweight Title a Bit...

    154-160 Really ISN'T a Good Place to B Right Now, if U're Looking for MONEY Fights...Especially when U're a Dangerous, ELITE Level Talent like Martinez...REED's Never EVER Heard of this Darren Barker Fellow, but what Other Option Does Martinez Have???...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    No one wants to fight Sergio Martinez.
     
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    Why not Pirog or Ishida?
     
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    Wait, Martinez is not a "True Middleweight" now?

    His walking around weight is reported to be in the 180 neighborhood, but he isn't a "True Middleweight"? He is 5'10" and looks to be rather heavily muscled and thick. He sure looks like a middleweight to me.

    It's unfortunate that there aren't any big names at 160 for him to fight and make money off of, but should that give him a free pass to continue to fight and call out welterweights and junior middleweights?
     
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    Martinez wants to make some money before he retires. He isn't going to make any money fighting either of these guys.

    Besides, Pirog is still green and didn't look very impressive in his last outing. Ishida has just one notable win over Kirkland who probably wasn't any good to begin with.
     
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    Did Walking Around @ Nearly 200lbs Make Ricky Hatton Any LESS of a "True Jr. Welter"???....Did Walking Around @ OVER 200lbs Make Fernando Vargas Any LESS of a "True Jr. Middle"???....

    The ONLY Reason Martinez Even Got a Shot @ the Middleweight Title was Because he LOST a Close Fight to Paul Williams, who was UNABLE to Secure his OWN Shot @ Pavlik...Paul Williams is MORE of a "True Middleweight" than Sergio Martinez will EVER B...

    Even In his Middleweight Fights, Martinez BARELY Approaches the 160lb Limit...He's a TRUE Jr. Middle for Certain...



    REED:dancingBaby:
     
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    Hatton and Vargas ARE FAT REED. LOL. Martinez isn't losing FAT when he cuts 20 lbs to make the MW limit. He is dehydrating and drying himself out to the bone.

    Barely approaches the 160lb limit? He has to cut about 20 pounds to make 160. He LOOKS BIG at MW. He looked BIG in the Pavlik fight and Pavlik is a BIG middleweight.

    No way in HELL is Paul Williams more of a true middleweight than Martinez.
     
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    Martinez has Been Doing the SAME Weight Cutting Routine for YEARS...That's NATHAN New...In his Last 2 "Middleweight" Fights, Dude has Weighed 158 3/4, 157 1/4...If a Guy is STRUGGLING to Cut Weight, he's NOT Gonna Go ANY Lower than he Absolutely HAS to...Yet Martinez is Coming In 1 1/4 & 2 3/4 lbs UNDER the Limit???....

    He's NOT a True Middleweight...

    In the Pavlik Fight, Kelly was CLEARLY the Bigger, Taller Guy...Just as Williams was CLEARLY the Bigger, Taller Guy in Both Fights (Williams is Bigger & Taller than EVERYBODY he Fights)...Have U SEEN Sergio Martinez Before???...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    REED, PW and Pavlik are TALLER than Martinez and that's about where it ends when it comes to comparing their sizes to his.

    Tall Paul is a stick REED.

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    Being More MUSCULAR Doesn't Make U BIGGER...Look @ FIGHTNIGHT Footage of Pavlik vs. Martinez & 1 Guy is CLEARLY BIGGER than the Other...Ditto for Willams vs. Martinez Footage...

    It's ABSURD to Even SUGGEST that Martinez is MORE of a True Middleweight than Paul Williams or Kelly Pavlik...He ISN'T...Again, Look @ What he's WEIGHED his Last 2 Fights...If it was a STRUGGLE to Get Down in Weight, he'd Get NO LOWER than 160 on the Money...

    Instead, he's Coming In Nearly 2-3 Lbs UNDER the Limit for Fights...



    REED:shit:
     
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    I never said Martinez is more of a TRUE Middleweight than Pavlik. Pavlik is a big middleweight himself.

    Tall Paul being bigger is a ridiculous argument. He's tall. He's also an F'n stick-man. He probably belongs at MW, but he doesn't look like he belongs there anymore than Martinez does.

    Point is - Martinez is a "TRUE MIDDLEWEIGHT" and he should be fighting other MWs. For fucks sake, he's considered the best middleweight on the planet, yet he doesn't want to fight any middleweights. Nobody under 160 should catch flak for not fighting this guy and it's about time he start catching some for constantly calling out WWs and JMWs.
     

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