Riddick Bowe (Prime) vs Vitali Klitschko

Bowe was more skillful, with a higher workrate and equal power. However Vitali would have come from behind and stopped Bowe eventually.

Vitali KO 9

 

92 Bowe was a helluva lot better than 03 Lewis, who BEAT Quitali.

Bowe fucks that fraud up.

 

I was never convinced of Bowe's whiskers or mental toughness. Just a hunch I had. A bigger stronger tougher Holyfield would have KO'd him in the rematch if it wasn't for fan man, the third fight if he wasn't sick and Golota would have given any version of Bowe trouble. Vitali beats him down.

 

Bowe would put a serious beating on Quitali. I don't think this is even a competitive fight.

I think prime Holyfield beats him too, btw.

 

Bowe by stoppage

 

Klitschko UD. Quality fight though.

 

How is he a fraud? Who has he ducked?

 

Bowe might be in control early but eventually Vitali takes over and either takes a convincing decision or stops faded Bowe late. As legitimate as Lewis' win over Vitali was, it is very unlikely that Bowe would be able to produce a similar freak injury

 

Klitschko loses, IMO... He is competetive, but he loses... Bowe was far more skilled with superior power and handspeed and footwork

Shit, Vitali has enough trouble stopping the Kevin Johnsons and Chris Arreolas of the world... now he is going to take out an actual world-class fighter in 9???

nonsense

 

The thing that makes it possible (though not likely) is that when in trouble, Bowe fought and came forwards. He would not quit nor protect himself, he always kept swinging. If he would be tired here and Vitali would keep landing he might force a stoppage. Bowe wouldn't pull a Kevin Johnson under any circumstances

 

Vitali would be getting punched in the face about 150% more than he has in any fight he has been in besides Lennox Lewis... do you guys really believe that Vitali has defeated a single fighter who resides in the same galaxy as Bowe does? You really think that whole "arm punch, stand tall" strategy will work the same way against Riddick Bowe???

I know everyone likes to think Bowe was some lousy shit who got punched in the balls by Andrew Golota a bunch of times, but in his brief prime, the man was a highly skilled and powerful fighter, vastly better than Anyone Vitali Klitschko has beaten

 

co-sign

I'm wondering if the people picking Vitali have actually seen both guys fight.

 

Klitschko knocking him out in nine? The arm puncher, levelling Bowe for the count? The same Riddick Bowe who played out a Rocky movie with Andrew Golota in their rematch? I find a lot of things about Bowe over-rated --- his toughness is certainly not one of them.

Bowe was a different class of fighter, frankly (big brother remains painfully over-estimated). Klitschko couldn't even dream of doing the things Bowe could, as two big men.

 

Vitali is the best example I can think of for why KO % is not necessarily a good metric when measuring power.

 

He's definitely a fine example.

 

Agreed. But it IS a good metric for measuring the ability to get KOs/Stoppages.

 

I'd like to point out that Riddick Bowe (prime) would be the best fighter Vitali has ever faced

 

Conventionally, perhaps. Klitschkos competition is not conventional, to put it diplomatically.

 

There is no way Vitaly beats a prime Bowe. No way no how. Close this thread. Ban the people who pick Vitaly and lets pretend we never even dicussed such nonsense.

 

These two fought in bit different eras so it is difficult to compare them directly. However based on their common opponents (Donald, Hide) they don't seem like different class of fighters. Unless of course is you want to point out that Vitali stopped Donald in wrong style and Bowe decisioned him correctly

 

How many years and how many fights took place between Bowe/Donald and Vitali/Donald?

Going by your logic, Kirk Johnson is better than Bowe, too.

If you seriously think Vitali is even in the same class as a prime Bowe, you have your head up your ass. Vitali can't even throw a proper jab.

 

I didn't say it works directly that way, but that is about the only thing we can compare and frankly, Donald didn't look that different in these fights. To say Bowe and Vitali are in different class is silly

We approach boxing differently. I don't care if a boxer can't throw anything else than a left haymaker to body, if he keeps beating everybody up. Winning is important, not if the fighter's style or hot abs look good to you. To you, how good a fighter is seems to be comparable to how he looks in the ring.

 

To a word, you saved me posting the same thoughts.

Bowe is a different class, all told. He could do things Klitschko flat isnt capable of duplicating.

 

And by the same standards, Henry Cooper is much better than Muhammad Ali since Cooper threw all punches properly while Ali could not do anything but slap and had no idea of how to throw to the body. Ali only was successful because he had reach.

(and to loadedgloves, who probably does not understand, no I am not comparing Ali and Vitali, just this kind of reasoning)

 

He's right, to suggest there is some huge chasm in class between Vitali and Bowe is ridiculous. I'm a fan of Bowe but it looks like he's being propped up here to support an agenda, to be honest with you

 

Actually, you're right. It only makes sense to conclude that Vitali is in fact BETTER than Bowe, because let's recall that Kirk Johnson knocked out Larry Donald, AND -- GET THIS -- Vitali knocked out Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds. Therefore, it follows that Vitali would also knock out Riddick Bowe, and do so even more easily than he knocked out Kirk Johnson. This is a sensible perspective, as is comparing Roberto Duran to John Ruiz.

Retard.

Yeah, Vitali has looked really good arm punching a murderer's row of fat midgets to death for the past decade or so. But hey, he did distinguish himself by losing to a version of Lennox Lewis that Riddick Bowe would've made his bitch.

Not being able to throw a jab is indicative of absence of fundamentals and basic technique, and that hasn't been a huge problem for Vitali against the third tier opposition he's faced throughout his career. But against a world class, complete fighter who isn't at a size disadvantage, that lack of fundamentals would certainly be exposed as a major vulnerability.

A guy who can't do shit but throw a left haymaker to the body might get far, he might even beat up everyone in a weak division - but once you start talking about ATG fighters at that weight, it's generally going to be assumed that those guys know how to deal with a left haymaker to the body and would make a guy who could throw nothing but that look like a bum.

Finally, I already mentioned this, but it bears repeating: you are a retard.

 

Bowe would fuck him up bad.

He'd stop him late after giving him a beating.

 

LOL. Bowe is not making any version of Lewis his bitch, believe that. Nor would he do the same to Vitali. As for competition, yes it's shit, but he can't help when he's born. You'd have a point if he was having close fights with shit opposition, but he's not, he's dominating them like he's meant to.

 

Also apart from Holyfield, Bowe's competition isn't much to brag about either. So unless you give Bowe props for beating them throwing more conventional punches, their opponents don't really prove much either. But loadedgloves is a funny little angerman

 

Bowe was a big bully. He preyed on a smaller Holyfield and Hide, and washed up Dokes and Tubbs, a featherfisted Donald, a useless Ferguson and Gonzales. First big powerful guy with skills that he fought, Golota, gave him hell.

Vitali would have broken down Riddick "Big Bully" Bowe. NO DOUBT in my mind.