Wlad by KO late. I would also add that Bruno would be a better win than every single other win he has ever had- Frank would have wiped his ass with Sander, Brewster, Peter et al. MTF
Please. Bruno was shit. Now that he's retired he would have woped his ass with Sanders and Peter? Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sam Peter, no. But neither was Bonecrusher Smith. Peter at his best had a decent chin and could have certainly outlasted Bruno and knocked him out late. Corrie Sanders could have beaten Bruno also...50-50 fight.
Peter is one of the most terrible heavyweights I have ever seen... he had nothing... a "big" punch by the standards of the worst heavyweight division since Marvin Hart ruled the roost Sanders, despite everyone's unwillingness to accept it, was a journeyman Bruno was a better everything than either man
I think Sanders was pretty good, I also think he had more ability than Bruno. Cdogg hates the dude and I like Cdogg so I'm not going to get into a big heave-ho about it, but the guy had talent. He just didn't seem like someone who would be very good at boxing because he looks a bit like Tom Selleck
I don't give a rat's ass what talent he did or did not have what did he DO WITH IT? He was outgutted by Hasim Rahman when the latter was coming off of getting obliterated by Oleg Maskaev... he couldn't get past Nate Tubbs for crying out loud Frank Bruno competed, he TRIED against the best heavyweights at a time when there were a hell of a lot more of them then there are now... he lost against only the best, with the exception of Bonecrusher Smith but they were both developing at the time and he didn't get blown out after that, he lost to Spoon, Tyson and Lennox... Sanders never would have even fought his way into a position to fight those guys much less even have had the chance to lose against them (which he emphatically would, to all three) Corrie Sanders would give his left nut to have had even half the career Bruno had yes, I am actually raving about FRANK BRUNO... that's how little Sanders matters
Oh I agree, Bruno done WAY more with his talent than Sanders did (although Sanders holds that one better win), I just think it's misleading to portray him as some kind of bum, because the guy could fight when he put down the golf clubs.
but we only have evidence of this from the one fight with Wlad whose limitations are pretty extreme Bonecrusher Smith once annihlated Tim Witherspoon, a very good heavyweight and a champion, in a single round I don't see anyone looking at that and saying "Hey, Bonecrusher Smith was really good" I think Corrie Sanders could fight when his opponent was an overconfident, chinny guy who was defenseless against someone who fired at him aggressively... but then again, so could A LOT of guys
He also shook Vitali up in the first but ran out of gas because he was a lazy twat who didn't have commitment. Anyway, it doesn't matter and that's not what I'm getting at, my main issue is that he was more than a "journeyman", to me that's someone like Ross Puritty. Someone who can take a beating and knows how to survive and test up and comers, without much ambition in terms of actually WINNING the fight. Sanders was not that bad.
I disagree that he's just one notch above, but I'm very tired and need to go to bed :: I'm sure this debate will resurface at some point in the future though ::
Correction: Sanders was a journeyman with fucking fast hands, pretty good pop and southpaw stance. Albeit not the most skilled fighter, and certainly nowhere near great, but he was very dangerous in the first couple of rounds, and gave some challenges many superior than him fighters did not.
Bruno was a sure-fire loser in every big fight he ever had. The song and dance he and the British media made about his winning a belt (which was fraudulently labelled the championship) was amusing. Klitschko wins, with room to spare.
Wlad is his whole career I've never seen a guy get more mileage out of a fight than Sanders gets out of that one his next best win is Al "Ice" Cole
Sure, but that's not the point. He was a lazy, not very polished fighter, who didn't achieve much, but he was very talented, and was dangerous in some ways that other, greater fighters weren't. For example, Bruno achieved more than him, and rightfully being held in higher regard, but Sanders had at least 3X faster hands, so he could exploit Wlad's glass-chin much easier imo.
Bruno would absolutely beat Corrie Sanders... Corrie Sanders loses to 90% of merely respectable heavyweights... It wouldn't matter if his hands were 4X faster
Bruno was consistently good at 'taking out the trash': he beat C-level fighters and below with something to spare almost always. His win over Mccall was legit and a solid title effort. He really did usually only lose to the best fighters, and even then he acquitted himself well generally (Tyson I, Lewis, Spoon) before running out of gas. Sanders, save for one night of his life, was consistently average. He was EXACTLY the type of level of guy Bruno usually dealt with comfortably. No-one is saying Bruno beats Wlad: he doesn't. But he's better than Peter, Purrity and Sanders IMO comfortably. MTF
I think Bruno would beat Sanders pretty easy. The first couple of rounds would be hairy but once the going got tough Bruno would be the one who actually wanted to win.
