Lennox Lewis - His best win?

perhaps klitschko shouldve recognized the urgency needed to win the fight and took matters into his own hands as hagler did?

 

Lewis wasn't a skinny blown up chinny Jnr Middle with a damaged hand like Hearns was...

 

Shoulda woulda coulda. Maybe they should have let Klitschko's eye get ruined? That would have been a great boxing story making headlines.

 

You do realize I've never been a fan of Lemmon don't you?

What's the objective in boxing? To inflict damage on your opponent.

If my punches result in your not being able to continue that's conclusive. Should the result of Gatti-Ruelas or Gatti-Rodiguez be overturned because Gatti was taking a terrible ass kicking before landing the final punches?

 

Casamayor vs Corrales I was conclusive...the fight was stopped due to a PUNCH for Casamayor.

the REASON for the rematch is how badly Corrales hurt Casamayor before the end of the round. That doesn't change the resulting damage of the punch.

Corrales' mouthguard literally went through his lip as a result of a PUNCH from Casamayor.

Regarding Hatton...I've always said Hatton was a bum so it doesn't matter if he'd won that fight or not. If anything perhaps it would have softened the blow from the losses to the best fighters he fought.

if you Brit's wouldn't have blown his head up and made him think he was a decent fighter he wouldn't have gotten embarassed by Mayweather and mentally FOOKED by Pacquiao.

60 pounds and a coke habit later...perhaps a loss to Thaxton would have leveled his head.

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That's better Muzse: it feels odd actually agreeing with you on anything in light of your staunch, bitter anti-UK bias :cheer:

Oh, and you do know that Slice hates Hatton, right?

MTF ::

 

I don't keep tabs on you Brits. As far as I'm concerned you all drink the same pro-Brit Kool-Aid.

 

Oh! Couldn't be further from the truth. Did you not REED what I wrote about what Boxing Monthly had to say about Lewis performance vs Holyfield??? Brits be far more critical of Brits than Yanks be of Yanks.

 

I don't know why. As a big island of losers Brits are used to falling short of the mark.

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Doesn't matter as far is Musze is concerned. He's a fervent Brit hater- it's practically his entire schtick.

MTF

 

Why are you defending IRAish?

Besides, I don't hate everything British. Completely a falsehood...Sade grew up there.

 

The irony of this statement, made in a thread discussing the best win of the last truly great HW champion (a Brit), is no doubt lost entirely on you I'd suppose.

MTF:NotThink:

 

I'm "taking the piss." Brits have so little to choose from as is. Don't think you ever forgave Lemmon for representing Canada.

 

I'm not defending Irish. He can defend himself. It's just that I'm not particularly fond of people who base their opinions on stereotypes, whether they be racial, sexual, religious or geographical. Your entire schtick is to amble around picking arguments with Brits for no other reason that they are British or to slate British fighters (Lemmon, Khoward etc) for no other reason that they are British.

It's boring.

MTF

 

Him and Sly should hook up. Sly gets confused about who he hates, he needs Musze to remind him. ::

 

I was never a huge fan myself but as time went on it became clear that Lennox was very good indeed, regardless of where he actually 'came from'

MTF

 

Canada/Shmanada!

He's a Brit. Born in England. Brit to the bone (well Jamaican to the bone really...but more Brit than Canadian ::).

 

I was a fan of Lewis' since he humbled Gary Mason. I knew then that he was "the truth".

 

That's actually not true. I've reserved my harshest criticism for guys like Mayweather, Hopkins and De la Hoya over the years.

Sly and I have had far more heated discussions over Mayweather than any convo I've had with any Brit over any British fighter.

I just think it stings Brits a bit more because there's less to choose from and I'm always spot on in my assessment. Thus the appearance of slagging all British fighters.

Back on point...no controversy over Lemmon's win over Vitali. Vitali didn't cut himself.

 

Look, Feebles is right, this is old ground.

Lewis deserved the stoppage vs Vitali. It was a fair stoppage.

We move on.

 

Hmmm...fair enough

MTF

 

Yep, I was never a fan of Hatton but I like Muzse, he's one of the best wind up merchants on the site and I'm determined not to fall into the sneaky badgers trap this time ::

Anyway, my point is this - was it a legit win? Yes, absolutely. I had no issues with the stoppage. I also had no issue with Lewis retiring when he did. Was it a conclusive win? No. Conclusive, to me, means there is absolutely no doubt as to who was the better man. I.e. - this matter is concluded. Chapter closed. If Lewis had decided to carry on fighting, he would have been slated if he'd fought anyone other than Vitali, which would not be the case if it was conclusive.

Anyway, we certainly got sidetracked ::. I think Vitali is the best guy on Lewis' record, but his best win is the Rahman rematch or Golota battering.

 

Ruddick battering was better than the Golota one.

Agreed though that Vitali is the best name on Lewis' resume (in terms of formidable opponent) and Rahman rematch is his best win.

 

Lewis' worst performance is still more entertaining than any Fraud F*ckweather fight.

 

Then you might as well count the Bruno win. He had more trouble with Bruno than Vitali if you ask me. I thought Lemmon lost all the rounds prior to knocking out Bruno.

 

That's Frank for you: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory was his forte.

MTF

 

I don't see your logic.

Vitali is Lennox' best opponent. Are you trying to tell me that Bruno was a more formidable opponent than Vitali?

Whether Lewis had more trouble with Bruno is irrelevant. Ali had more trouble with Norton than he did with Foreman. Foreman is the better name on Ali's resume....the better accomplishment.

 

I think despite Ali winning against Foreman, he was really the loser in that fight. He sustained a ton of damage. Foreman didn't take any real damage, he mostly just gassed out from beating the sh*t out of Ali.

 

I've yet to hear exactly how Vitali makes his "best" opponent. because he's taller than Lemmon? Certainly wasn't/isn't based on accomplishments BEFORE the fight. As awful as the division has been since Lemmon left it can't be based on his ledger after either...especially considering Vitali was inactive and injured for quite some time. He missed what...three or four years?

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Not exactly a murders row. Two guys were former champions and neither were good champions at that.

 

Naturally "Best Opponent" is very subjective. But if you disagree that Vitali was his most formidable opponent...then by all means offer your alternative. Are you suggesting that it's Bruno?